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Re: i'm a developer
by Jonathan Dietrich on Monday 21/Mar/2005, @10:41

<rant>
Please learn what 'stable', 'testing', and 'unstable' mean within the Debian jargon set before you start to make claims about not having a stable release. I have been running Debian 'testing' for some time now and it is VERY stable and is only a LITTLE laggy when it comes to getting new or upgraded software. The only time I have had any problems with it, is when I got greedy and decided to install a package from 'unstable' and it happened to cause a problem. Now, I use 'stable' for my server box, because I don't care when a new version of KDE comes out for it. It just needs to run mysql, apache and php. It gets the security patches and it keeps running strong. No worries, because I am not running anything new or not tried and tested. It is STABLE as in UNCHANGING. That is the idea of Debian 'stable', an unchanging platform on which you can rely. 'Unstable' is the first major distribution where things go. Then after meeting some <A href="http://www.debian.org/devel/testing">criteria</A> it graduates to 'testing'. Then when a new 'stable' is getting near, the doors to 'testing' are shut and things are nailed down. Then the new 'stable' becomes the solid 'testing' then 'testing' opens up for changes again and the process begins again.
</rant>

Debian rules!
Apt RULES!

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Re: i'm a developer
by ac on Monday 21/Mar/2005, @13:08

So, after all your pointless ranting, what's the summary?

Debian hasn't had a up-to-date 'stable' release in many years, which is my point.

'Unstable' is unstable and can break things (see http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-system.en.html#s-unstable). People think it's fun to apt things every day and end up with a broken system. That's fine but it's not for me anymore.

All I want is stable and up-to-date which Ark Linux gives me.

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Re: i'm a developer
by Jonathan Dietrich on Monday 21/Mar/2005, @13:11

use 'testing', not 'unstable', not 'stable'

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Re: i'm a developer
by ac on Monday 21/Mar/2005, @13:18

I see. So it seems 'testing' vs 'stable' in Debian is comparable to Fedora vs RedHat. Thanks for clearing that up. When was the latest release of 'testing'?

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Re: i'm a developer
by Jonathan Dietrich on Monday 21/Mar/2005, @13:24

'testing' is a rolling distribution that is not released in a traditional fashion. As individual pieces are found to work correctly in the 'unstable' distribution, and after they have met the required criteria, then these individual packages are released into 'testing'. So every weekend when I do my apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, I get the newest available packages from 'testing'

The only Debian distribution that has real releases is 'stable'.

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Re: i'm a developer
by ac on Monday 21/Mar/2005, @23:13

My head hurts. :D

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Re: i'm a developer
by maestro on Wednesday 23/Mar/2005, @20:12

It seem that you know even less about RedHat than you do about debian.

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Re: i'm a developer
by maestro on Wednesday 23/Mar/2005, @20:10

What the heck makes you think that something produced by one undergrad is going to be "stable and up-to-date"? Sheesh.

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Re: i'm a developer
by ac on Monday 21/Mar/2005, @13:11

And also, I think Ark Linux has APT anyway.

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