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Re: Tenor KIO-slave?
by charles on Thursday 14/Apr/2005, @01:06

>Of course, there is a problem that KDE has even today: how do we tell the users >about all the great technology KDE has? I still run in to KDE-users who do not >know about audiocd:// or fish://!

I guess I am one of them. When I paste audiocd:// into the location bar on Konqueror, I get a dialogue "Malformed URL audiocd://" The same applies to fish://.

In my protocols config dialog, I have "fish" and it's checked, "audiocd" is missing. I am running kde3.4. Where is the documentation on these protocols? Doing a google search brings up so much information not so useful to a n00b like me. Thanx.

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Re: Tenor KIO-slave?
by anon on Thursday 14/Apr/2005, @01:33

Charles.
do you have kde-multimedia installed? I guess you are just missing some part of KDE.

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Re: Tenor KIO-slave?
by Daniel Molkentin on Thursday 14/Apr/2005, @02:32

It's "audiocd:/" and "fish://" needs to go with a hostname or an IP, e.g. "fish://my.server.tld".

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Re: Tenor KIO-slave?
by charles on Thursday 14/Apr/2005, @14:21

That did it, thanx! While I know what ftp:// and http:// or https:// can be used for, I wonder what use could be made of fish://. Since I have no system setup for the fish protocol, could you point me to one? Cb..

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Re: Tenor KIO-slave?
by Spy Hunter on Thursday 14/Apr/2005, @18:51

That's what's great about fish://, there's no setup, your linux machines are already fish servers (as long as they run an SSH server, which almost all do). For any Linux or Unix machine you have a username, simply use fish://username@machinename to access the filesystem of that machine using that username. Unfortunately, it doesn't work for Windows machines, for that you have to use smb://.

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Re: Tenor KIO-slave? - Wow!
by charles on Friday 15/Apr/2005, @01:51

I can only say wooooow! I never knew KDE has this feature and I guess I am missing a lot more. I guess I can put "fish://username@machinename" in the save dialogue to save a file on this machine if everything is setup. This kind of publicity is what we need for KDE. When I get back to the Linux box at home I will try it out! Thanx. What other exciting protocols/goodies are there to exploit?

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Re: Tenor KIO-slave? - Wow!
by blacksheep on Friday 15/Apr/2005, @04:56

To get a list of all the available protocols:
$ kcmshell ioslaveinfo

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Re: Tenor KIO-slave?
by jms on Thursday 14/Apr/2005, @02:35

Its audiocd:/, and fish://hostname or fish:/

Which distro are you using?

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Re: Tenor KIO-slave?
by blacksheep on Thursday 14/Apr/2005, @02:51

My only grip about KIO is that tar, rar, etc should be implemented as pipes or something like that. I mean, it should be possible to view a TAR file from a FTP. Dunno if this is being worked on. My suggestion for how the url would look like is something like this: scp://server.com/file.tar|tar .

Anyway, yes, KIO is one of the best piece of software that lives in KDE. Really useful.

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Re: Tenor KIO-slave?
by Illissius on Thursday 14/Apr/2005, @08:28

I've always thought something like ftp://ftp.server.com/file.tar#tar:/file/inside/it would make sense -- taking a cue from the webpage.html#anchor-to-jump-to syntax. Don't know whether it would conflict with anything else, though.

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Re: Tenor KIO-slave?
by Spy Hunter on Thursday 14/Apr/2005, @19:21

It would be great except that somebody might use anchors named tar: in their html file, and even possibly name their html file with a .tar extension. It would be hard to figure out what was meant in every situation.

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Re: Tenor KIO-slave?
by James L on Thursday 14/Apr/2005, @08:38

It is actually, and honestly a very annoying/good thing (depending on what I want to do, which I don't expect KDE to be able to telepathically figure out) with my config is that it does show up as the opened tar file over ftp or http. (It's something I forget which under file types, show in embedded viewer as default I believe.)

And tar, gzip, bzip all already are piped through eachother. The tar kio-slave only handles uncompressed tar files (As of at least KDE 2.x, as I last recall looking. I doubt it would have changed), and the appropriate gzip/bzip kio-slave is used automatically.

Ie, tar://home/user/example.tar.gz is really tar://gzip://home/user/example.tar.gz (or something like that)

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Re: Tenor KIO-slave?
by Spy Hunter on Thursday 14/Apr/2005, @12:23

Here's my proposal: stack the protocols at the beginning, using the username part of the standard URL format as the file path for the archive. I think this could be implemented with no changes to the KIO framework, all the work would be done in the new IOSlaves.

A simple one: open a zip file on an HTTP server.

zip:/@http://server/file

Open a bzip2 compressed tar file on an HTTP server

tar:/@bzip2:@http://server/file

A complex example: open a particular file in a passworded rar file through fish://.

rar:/rardir/rarfile:rarpass@fish://user:pass@server/file.

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