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Re: Not surprising
by Andy on Wednesday 06/Jul/2005, @09:57

Hmm, don't get me wrong, but with DEs I see KDE is more for geeks and Gnome for the "ordinary employees". Most poor souls come from m$ and they want a simple and less feature-rich desktop. KDE is way to powerful for most of them to handle (I've seen a secretary going crazy looking for the menubar with osx-like style, she just didn't understand it and she's normally clever and not stupid; I guess peoples habits get damaged using m$ crap). Maybe after some month of training a switch can be considered.
yes, i've started with Gnome 1.1 myself some years ago and switched to KDE 2.0 when is was released.

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Re: Not surprising
by Paul Eggleton on Wednesday 06/Jul/2005, @18:33

In a workplace, if being "too powerful" is a problem, that's when the administrator steps in and disables/locks out functions that are not desired. KDE provides the means to do this with fully customisable toolbars/menus and the Kiosk framework.

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Re: Not surprising
by cm on Wednesday 06/Jul/2005, @22:49

> Most poor souls come from m$

Well, forum trolls keep asserting that KDE was a Windows clone and that's why they don't use it. If you took that face value that would mean that KDE was actually the better DE for "ordinary employees" switching from Windows.

And no, KDE is not just a clone.

> and they want a simple and less feature-rich desktop.

If that were true (*) it could be done by not installing so much software (a much underestimated concept! ;-) and by using the kiosk framework. I doubt the Vienna staff will get to see the full array of educational, development and multimedia software, and all the options.

(*): I doubt especially the "less feature-rich" part, many of KDE's cool features (e.g. mini-CLI via Alt-F2, IO slaves, mouse gestures for the whole desktop and its apps, ...) are hidden and thus don't get in the way of someone who does not use them.

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Re: Not surprising
by Morty on Thursday 07/Jul/2005, @02:12

I always find it strange that people keeps claiming things like that Gnome are more for the "ordinary employees". I guess it's some kind of PR spin from the Gnome camp that have caught on, and people keeps on pushing it. It's pretty stange, since close to all the Linux distributions aimed at the newbies and the ones consider most user friendly and easy to install, all are KDE based. When the companies who try to make a living selling easy to use Linux distributions all chose to use KDE, why do people still insist to claim that Gnome are better suited?

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Re: Not surprising
by Andy on Thursday 07/Jul/2005, @13:17

I'm not from Gnome, i haven't used it since KDE 2.0. Only I everyday experience people whose systems were switched having an easier time getting used to Gnome than KDE.
For myself, I wouldn't want to work without fish:, man: or webdav: and all those little helpers like Klipper or SuperKaramba. And don't forget about Kontact, although its useful with Gnome too (since Evolution is, well..., somewhat... ugly *duckandcover*).

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Re: Not surprising
by something on Friday 08/Jul/2005, @23:26

What describes user/case like that is called "Learned Helplessness".
.. i think

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