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Oh no...
by Me on Tuesday 13/Sep/2005, @06:36
Autoconf/Auromake was already pretty bad, but at least (sometimes) only bash was required, now I will need to install another one of those scripting languages I really don't need nor want to have installed. Ok ok, so bash is probably not the most elegant way to program something, but at least bash is compact in the sense that it doesn't spill a shitload of files all over the filesystem (often in the wrong places). I was pretty pissed when I found out one had to have perl installed to get Gtk and GIMP to build. Has Jam been considered as an alternative?
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Re: Oh no...
by Guillaume Laurent on Tuesday 13/Sep/2005, @07:19
Yes, pretty much all alternatives have been considered, and the only serious contenders where scons/bksys and cmake.

Second, have you ever tried to maintain an auto*-based build ? I have, and like anyone who has I can tell you how incredibly brain-damaged this system is. And it does "spill a shitload of files all over the filesystem", much more than python.

As for not wanting to install python, seriously... what's the big deal. Apparently you're resisting it for purely "religious" reasons, well, too bad.
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Re: Oh no...
by anonymous_curious on Tuesday 13/Sep/2005, @14:30
> I was pretty pissed when I found out one had to have Perl installed to get Gtk and GIMP to build.

Did you know that building KDE programs from the repository in KDE3 required Perl and M4 ? Did you know that unsermake was (and still is) required to build KDE4, and that it was Python-based too ?

> Has Jam been considered as an alternative?

Yes, and Ant too, and many other tools.
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