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Re: Oh no...
by ac on Wednesday 14/Sep/2005, @00:26

> Perl is thankfully fading away

Any values to back this up ? Perl is stronger than ever these days.

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Re: Oh no...
by Guillaume Laurent on Wednesday 14/Sep/2005, @00:36

None whatsoever, I gladly admit this is based both on wishful thinking and random observation (I see more headlines about Python and Ruby than about Perl, and Larry Wall's "Apocalypses" about the upcoming Perl 6 are, hmm, well...).

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Re: Oh no...
by ac on Wednesday 14/Sep/2005, @00:53

> None whatsoever, I gladly admit this is based both on wishful thinking and
> random observation (I see more headlines about Python and Ruby than about Perl.

And I keep hearing more about Ruby than Python these days so what.

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Re: Oh no...
by renox on Sunday 25/Sep/2005, @07:12

True, even though Python is more used, Ruby is "in" those day.
Still Ruby will need more than a web framework to sustain the hype.

Anyway I fully support Guillaume in hoping that Perl will die, though it will take time it is probably more used than Python+Ruby together.
But there are troubles in the Perl world: they don't manage to make Perl6, which (IMHO!) sucks also anyway..

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Re: Oh no...
by Scott Wheeler on Thursday 15/Sep/2005, @01:09

Perl was all the rage in the late 90s with the web boom and the widespread emergence of web apps, for which Perl was usually the language of choice. By the end of the 90s Java was eroding the high end of that market and PHP the low end. As a general purpose scripting language Python and Ruby weren't as established.

I also think that some of the shift has been due to paradigm shifts in people learning to program. Despite it being possible to do OOP with Perl, it's ugly; Perl really is just better suited for iterative programming. In the mid-90s new programmers were starting off with iterative languages, so Perl was a more natural transition.

Today, on the other hand most new programmers start with object oriented languages and learn to think in object oriented terms. As such it's natural that those people would gravitate towards object oriented scripting languages such as Ruby and Python.

(And I should note at this point that I know Perl very well and don't know Ruby or Python -- so this isn't a Python-love-fest, just something I've observed.)

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