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What Ms is working on
by gerd on Saturday 24/Sep/2005, @16:26
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some nice developer's insights of microsoft:
Outlook Express to be renamed windows Mail, finally adds spam filter / Video
http://channel9.msdn.com/showpost.aspx?postid=116711
sharepoint
http://www.sharepointblogs.com/dustin/archive/2005/09/14/3503.aspx
Screenshots of Office 12
http://pdc.xbetas.com/?page=o12preview1 |
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Re: What Ms is working on
by Me on Sunday 25/Sep/2005, @01:51
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> Screenshots of Office 12
> http://pdc.xbetas.com/?page=o12preview1
o.k.,
1. this will definitively frighten nearly 100% of their "normal" users to hell.
2. some IT admins in business may already try to estimate costs and (their own) time to explain the hordes of typists the new UI... ("yes, baby, that button is now just at another position on the screen. Yes, I know it used to be up there, but now it's a bit more left... ")
btw.: did you notice the little cross on the top right corner of the tabs on the screenies? You can actually close the tabs! Yeah! This will be total horror for all admins around the globe as every typist will eventually press it "Ayayay... my word vanished.. Dunno, what I've done, but now it looks so different, I'm sorry, I fucked it up..."
3. in the bigger companies they already book the "retraining lessons"... Well, we have the big wallet's over here and who cares anyway...
4. Some geeks may simply think, "fuck' em, they replaced menus with tabs, but so what, as long as it's somewhat usable"
5. On windows, after 3+ month everybody got used to it and will have to use both menus and tab interfaces for a transition periode of at least 2 years, as most windows software will change their UI to resemble MS's new "invention" (just to look more "up to date", ya know)
6. my humble opinion: I don't think you'll save a second when typing a letter using tabs instead of menus. It all boils down to a different "look" using some more pixels for the UI.
7. It's o.k. to give the UI more space on the screen (bigger icons, buttons, menu), because screen resolution is now better then 10 years ago. KDE's UI has been (moderatly) changing over the years and won't stop to do so in the future. I strongly "plead" for something like an "extended Toolbar" much like what we already have (configurability), plus resembling some of the functionality of MS new UI (but without the possibility to accidentally close a tab)
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Re: What Ms is working on
by renox on Sunday 25/Sep/2005, @10:55
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>1. this will definitively frighten nearly 100% of their "normal" users to hell.
I don't know: it was said the same thing for the 'fisher price' default look of WinXP but I think that a majority of the home users are using the default (many enterprise configures it at classic mode though).
One could say it is because that they have no clue of how to do the change (or fear that it would 'break things'), still they managed to use the new look without too much fuss I think.
So, I don't expect users to have too much problem, only an even bigger reluctancy to switch, but that has been the case since Office97: further version have bring nearly nothing useful (except maybe the groupware features, but very few users use them).
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Re: What Ms is working on
by Markus Heller on Tuesday 27/Sep/2005, @20:42
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I see that Sharepoint, Exchange and the BizTalk Server are going to grow together. At least, they will be highly complementary. And there is a need, too:
- The companies will want email access through the web, not only through outlook.
- They will want to have file data exchange.
- They will want to have calendaring and ressource planning, possibly via the web...
- They will want to have workflow planning that is tightly integrated in email communication.
- They will possibly want to have a neat corporate website which is easy to constuct. Preferably as a modular portal solution, and Sharepoint will have to do that.
But nevertheless, I also see from colleagues who work for M$ that the giant is nervous. OpenSource is tackling M$ on the desktop now, and the community is constantly getting better. At the same time, users are reluctant to learn new applications all over again and feel well-served by existing software (with maintenance expiring). And a great number of Computing Science students have been brought up on Linux, not on Windows.
In this sense we should really start to work on applications and on the age-old problem of application integration. We will have to see what apps are running in the enterprises and how we can attach to them. The OpenSource world will have to become an application integration world. BTW, why don't we shed more light on OpenSource ERP and CRM software? This is a core reason for small companies to stay on Windows.
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Re: What Ms is working on
by Me on Monday 03/Oct/2005, @22:16
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> The OpenSource world will have to become an application integration world.
> BTW, why don't we shed more light on OpenSource ERP and CRM software? This
> is a core reason for small companies to stay on Windows.
I strongly second that! Some month ago, I already did a prototype of an ERP-solution with Gambas, which is planned to be tranformed into a real KDE-app. It could fit some 1-20 employees, but not more. As I have my own "company" (5 employees) I have some experience, but not enough time to work on it (to be honest I have no free time atm).
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