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koffice maybe ...
by scot on Sunday 25/Sep/2005, @11:30
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in practice there are not many if any OpenDocument applications that are out of beta that run natively on OSX or Windows.
OpenOffice will be out soon-ish, but koffice still wont run natively on windows or MacOS. (where MS office does now).
Alan might have a fleeting point as of right now. |
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Re: koffice maybe ...
by Morty on Sunday 25/Sep/2005, @11:47
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Not really, since he is using the new office format as base for his argument. And since MS Office 12 is not yet released, it's not available anywhere. Not like OpenDocument which is, in the way of public available betas of OpenOffice.
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Re: koffice maybe ...
by scot on Sunday 25/Sep/2005, @12:09
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Yes Alan is evil, i fully concede that ;) but m$ has office 2003 that has an XML file format now across the entire suite, the next rev will have semi-open document format across both Mac and Windows. I dont see a day coming soon that there will be a competing suite that runs on both OSX and Win32. OpenOffice does not run natively on OSX.
I am a Mac head and i would love something (anything ) to read all of the files that openOffice can output.
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Re: koffice maybe ...
by Morty on Sunday 25/Sep/2005, @13:09
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>I am a Mac head and i would love something (anything ) to read all of the files that openOffice can output.
Then I really think it's time for you to start bugging Apple about it. They already use XML in their new office thingie, iWorks??. Or whatever it's called. So if you Mac heads get together and ask/demand support for it, it's really no reason for Apple not to:-)
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Re: koffice maybe ...
by Ralph on Monday 26/Sep/2005, @00:42
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OpenOffice 1.1.5 handles OpenDocument and has been out for a couple of weeks. Just install Linux on your Mac and run OpenOffice. See, it is simple.
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Re: koffice maybe ...
by Lefty on Sunday 25/Sep/2005, @13:22
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www.neooffice.org
NeoOffice/J is OpenOffice in a java wrapper.
Not completely native (depending on your definition of native) but very close.
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Re: koffice maybe ...
by scot on Sunday 25/Sep/2005, @14:48
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neooffice is on the 1.1.4 code base, does not yet understand open document formats and they dont know when /if this will happen.
Again, making my point that maybe Alan has a point in that nothing uses this, on his perceived platforms (win32 and OSX) , anything that is not beta.
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Re: koffice maybe ...
by Morty on Sunday 25/Sep/2005, @16:10
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You keep repeating this, but nothing is using the "open" ms format either making your point void. That the current implementation of Office is able to use a XML format does not make any difference, the released versions of OpenOffice eg. 1.x series also uses XML.
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Re: koffice maybe ...
by cm on Sunday 25/Sep/2005, @13:35
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> in practice there are not many if any OpenDocument applications
> that are out of beta that run natively on OSX or Windows.
[...]
> Alan might have a fleeting point as of right now.
Alan mentioned KOffice himself and didn't bring up the fact that it is not available on Windows or the Mac (yet). His point wasn't about operating systems but about support by different implementations, i.e. acceptance of the format by different projects / vendors.
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