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KDETalk: A KDE Jabber Server

Posted by Olivier Goffart on Friday 07/Oct/2005, @05:32
from the get-konnected dept.
For KDE users and contributors who aren't Jabber addicts yet, a new public Jabber server is available at kdetalk.net. For those which don't know Jabber yet, it's an open Instant Messaging protocol. It has some advantage such as being decentralized, more secure, extensible, and last but not least in our free software world, open and developed by an open community.

The KDETalk server is public, anyone may register. If you are using KDE, you can register with Kopete following these instructions.

KDE developers may even, instead of registering username@kdetalk.net, ask sysadmin kde org for a @kde.org JID which matches with their KDE email or SVN account.

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confusing article title
by a. p. non on Friday 07/Oct/2005, @07:53

I thought it was a KDE implementation of a Jabber server.

It isn't, if it confuses you too!

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Re: confusing article title by ac on Friday 07/Oct/2005, @08:25

Re: confusing article title by Trejkaz on Friday 07/Oct/2005, @17:06

Re: confusing article title by Yama on Friday 07/Oct/2005, @21:57

Re: confusing article title by Trejkaz on Friday 07/Oct/2005, @23:20
Re: confusing article title by Lee on Monday 10/Oct/2005, @12:45

Re: confusing article title by Bram Schoenmakers on Friday 07/Oct/2005, @08:35

Re: confusing article title by Corbin on Friday 07/Oct/2005, @09:12

[OT] by jmfayard on Saturday 08/Oct/2005, @09:03

Re: [OT] by MrGrim on Saturday 08/Oct/2005, @15:38

Re: [OT] by James on Saturday 08/Oct/2005, @16:49
Re: [OT] by cm on Sunday 09/Oct/2005, @01:06

Re: [OT] by Dennis Krøger on Friday 21/Oct/2005, @17:52

Re: [OT] by cm on Friday 21/Oct/2005, @23:53

encouraging KDE user to use it
by Patcito on Friday 07/Oct/2005, @09:02

I think the best way to get people to use it would be to pop up in the left corner of the screen a bubble that would say "Would you like to create a KDE talk account to keep in touch with your friend?". Then if the user click on it, a wizard will help the user create an account and propose him/her a username that would match his current linux username.

Or better, when the user starts KDE for the first time, that wizard could be added automatically next to the select your "KDE style wizard" and stuff. If the user skip it, he will get the aforementioned bubble when he start kopete for the first time :)

What do you guys think?

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Re: encouraging KDE user to use it by lippel on Friday 07/Oct/2005, @09:19

Re: encouraging KDE user to use it by Patcito on Friday 07/Oct/2005, @09:53

Re: encouraging KDE user to use it by chris on Friday 07/Oct/2005, @14:33

Re: encouraging KDE user to use it by Patcito on Friday 07/Oct/2005, @09:58

dito
by karwin on Friday 07/Oct/2005, @09:59

That's what I thought when i say the feed update..... Cool a KDE jabber server... Well no!

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so... chat or VOIP?
by lefty.crupps on Friday 07/Oct/2005, @10:43

KDE has a jabber-compatable application, Kopete. So does this follow GoogleTalk, where its a VOIP program (also based on Jabber and possibly compatable!?)? No one seems to mention that in the comments, but why have another KDE chat program?

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Re: so... chat or VOIP? by mikeyd on Friday 07/Oct/2005, @11:07
HELP by josh on Sunday 29/Oct/2006, @13:28

Why would I want to use this one?
by Guido Winkelmann on Friday 07/Oct/2005, @12:03

Hi,

Two questions:
How does this fit into the general concept of the KDE project? I thought KDE's goal was to provide software, not services? (Well, apart from the services related to distributing, supporting and advertising said software.)

Why would I want to use this Jabber server out of the many available? Does it have any outstanding features I can't find elsewhere? The one thing that has plagued most Jabber servers I have been using up to now was a lack of reliability (especially jabber.org...). How do I know that this one will be better? (I could use it for some time to find out, but by then it's too late for an informed decision anyway.)

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Re: Why would I want to use this one? by Patcito on Friday 07/Oct/2005, @14:48

Re: Why would I want to use this one? by Guido Winkelmann on Sunday 09/Oct/2005, @05:43

Re: Why would I want to use this one? by jhg on Friday 07/Oct/2005, @15:39

Re: Why would I want to use this one? by cm on Saturday 08/Oct/2005, @02:18

Re: Why would I want to use this one? by Haakon Nilsen on Saturday 08/Oct/2005, @12:44

Re: Why would I want to use this one? by Guido Winkelmann on Sunday 09/Oct/2005, @05:42

Totally OT
by Yves on Friday 07/Oct/2005, @13:42

But can I believe that still nobody else has voted for this wish...? :
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=112555

Try Firefox 1.5 and ur gonna like it...

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Re: Totally OT by Greg on Friday 07/Oct/2005, @14:14
Re: Totally OT by Patcito on Friday 07/Oct/2005, @14:42

Re: Totally OT by Yves on Friday 07/Oct/2005, @15:05

Re: Totally OT by Patcito on Friday 07/Oct/2005, @15:13
Re: Totally OT by anon on Friday 07/Oct/2005, @15:44

Re: Totally OT by Yves on Sunday 09/Oct/2005, @08:06

OT: konqueror vs opera (cache)
by fast_rizwaan on Friday 07/Oct/2005, @16:15

Opera 8.x does efficient caching, whereas konqueror doesn't do "Session" or "Time-out" based caching.

If we choose "Use cache if possible" then no matter how many times you exit/run konqueror the same site will get open with the "Stale data". This is not elegant. konqueror should see the good feature of opera of session based caching. as soon as the session expires the cache is cleared.

and when opera is restarted then the page is updated (cache is flushed). konqueror doesn't do "flushing" of cache on exit of session (per page). This is what makes Konqueror's cache system almost useless.

I would suggest:

1. Session based caching: (as the page is closed the cache is deleted)
2. time-out (30 seconds -2 minutes): after the time-out the cache is flushed-out.

or we can have both 1+2 for better caching in konqueror.

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Re: OT: konqueror vs opera (cache) by Patcito on Friday 07/Oct/2005, @16:43

Other features
by Sander on Saturday 08/Oct/2005, @05:48

Nice, next step could be to integrate the Jabber server better in the KDE project. Some ideas:
* support for notifying via Jabber here
* support for notifying via Jabber in the bug tracker
* MUCkl (a web front-end for Multi-User Chat (MUC) rooms, accessible without the need to create a permanent Jabber ID)
* news notifications via Jabber (new KDE release etc)
* Publish-Subscribe integration in KDE
* Jabber kio
* a JabberFriends service similar to http://web.amessage.info/friends/
* support for Blocking Communication (Privacy Lists) in Kopete
* better overall Jabber support in Kopete
* SVN notifications via Jabber
* replacing the multi-user chat support in KDE games with Jabber MUC
* ...

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Re: Other features by Corbin on Saturday 08/Oct/2005, @07:23

Who's online
by Nikhil on Saturday 08/Oct/2005, @19:15

The server should have a page where those people who want to display their id can put it up. Otherwise whats the use of a Jabber server for KDE. This is a great service for bringing the community together, something like IRC. But when you don't know who is online then it gets boring.

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Are they any chat rooms at kdetalk.net?
by fast_rizwaan on Monday 10/Oct/2005, @17:08

no chat room?

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