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by Eleknader on Tuesday 15/Nov/2005, @23:48

I'm not sure I understand the licence of Oxygen icons right. It's non-commercial so are commercial (closed source) software vendors able to distribute these icons without opening the source of the programs?

I was wondering this just because it would be great to see some closed source offerings complementing the great KDE user experience.

Also, will these icons be cross-desktop like Tango icons?

Eleknader

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Re: Licence question
by Eleknader on Tuesday 15/Nov/2005, @23:53

Hrm, after RTFA I found that the icons will be released under GPL, LGPL or under a icon-specific similar licence.

Sorry for not RTFA before asking ;)

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Re: Licence question
by Chris C on Tuesday 15/Nov/2005, @23:59

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> Also, will these icons be cross-desktop like Tango icons?
>

If a cross-desktop look was being sought after then there's no reason the better icons couldn't be folded into Tango (the help, navigation and reload buttons in particular are gorgeous and miles better than the Tango ones). For once there's absolutely no difference between the stated goals of the "rival" initiatives, and it's obvious that Oxygen is following the same visual guidelines sgarrity came up with for Firefox (and thus Tango).

I'm pretty disappointed with the need to "preview" an unfinished icon set for the sake of keeping up appearances, especially when combined with a promise to relicense later. It's yet more duplicated effort.

- Chris

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Re: Licence question
by pinheiro on Wednesday 16/Nov/2005, @00:39

About cross-desktop,yes i hope so!
but we will need to do 2 version, couse ours will be done im full svg and probaly will have specila features that only kde at near future time will be able to render, and a normal multi size png icon set for all other desketops.

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Oxygen needs to be cross-platform!
by Jakob Petsovits on Wednesday 16/Nov/2005, @04:46

Please try hard to remain compatible to 'the other desktop'. Not that I use gnome, but there's a lot of duplicated work or icon themes that never reach the other desktop and it's just a lack of communication.

Tango did maybe not involve the KDE developers enough in their preparation phase, but their specification is still adaptable. You three are the ones who will decide on icon names, usage, guidelines and everything, and I ask you to actively participate in the evolution of the Tango icon naming specification, so that it's really usable by KDE too.

I'm glad that you're not against cross-desktop usage, but just hoping isn't enough to succeed here. Get on the Tango-artists mailing list at fd.o and push the changes in that you think are necessary. For the best of both of the big desktops.

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Re: Oxygen needs to be cross-platform!
by Torsten Rahn on Friday 18/Nov/2005, @02:59

> Please try hard to remain compatible to 'the other desktop'.

We will try hard to remain compatible when it comes to standards that actually make sense: like the icon naming specification, a common icon metaphor etc.

But like all other projects (Enlightenment, XFCE, Gnome, etc.) KDE will stick to its own style, its own color palette and its own visual identity.

Best Regards,
Torsten Rahn

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Re: Oxygen needs to be cross-platform!
by Jakob Petsovits on Friday 18/Nov/2005, @03:05

> We will try hard to remain compatible when it comes to standards that
> actually make sense: like the icon naming specification, a common icon metaphor etc.

Excellent, it's good to hear that.

> But like all other projects (Enlightenment, XFCE, Gnome, etc.) KDE will
> stick to its own style, its own color palette and its own visual identity.

I fully support this approach. May the schwartz be with you! :)

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