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Re: Couple of years?
by Torsten Rahn on Tuesday 29/Nov/2005, @06:09
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Don't overinterprete everything said there. So far there isn't even a release schedule available yet. And I guess that I'm not the only one who thinks that a two years period would put the whole project at risk. Especially among long-time KDE contributors a release aimed at the end of next year seems to be favoured. So don't worry. :-)
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Re: Couple of years?
by Carsten Niehaus on Tuesday 29/Nov/2005, @06:14
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3.5 will serve many in the next couple of years. Keep in mind that a major distro like Debian is still using KDE 3.3.x.
KDE 4.0 will be released in about a year. There is no exact roadmap but something like Q3 or Q4 2006 sound likely. I guess that is a "significant upgrade" :-)
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Re: Couple of years?
by Thiago Macieira on Tuesday 29/Nov/2005, @06:44
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Indeed, that's what is meant here.
KDE 4 will be released in late 2006 or maybe even 2007 (we don't know yet). This means KDE 3.5 will survive for at least another 18 months while people upgrade. Also, existing production environments may decide to withhold updating for some more time, given that KDE 4 will have radical changes.
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Re: Couple of years?
by Morty on Tuesday 29/Nov/2005, @06:56
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The couple of years figure are not a set date for KDE4, it also includes realistic migration time of distributions and applications before it's common among users. Personally I'm expecting the first alphas and betas 6-8 months from now.
Besides you are forgetting one very important thing when it comes to users need. The interresting part are not the core desktop system really, it's nice and all, but what's important are the applications. The way to continue increase the mindshare are to keep up the stream of high quality applications.
Since it's to early for most application developers to start porting to KDE4, this will happen. For instance a new and improved KOffice version is set to be released in a few months. And other high quality applications keep releasing at a regular pace, like amaroK, digiKam, K3b, Codeine, Kaffeine, Krusader, KTechlab, kdissert, Kile, Tellico, KMyMoney, TaskJuggler, KNemo and the list goes on.
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Re: Couple of years?
by Thomas Zander on Tuesday 29/Nov/2005, @08:55
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> Since it's to early for most application developers to start porting to KDE4, this will happen. For instance a new and improved KOffice version is set to be released in a few months.
To avoid misinterpretation; the above is about KOffice version 1.5. This version will be available for KDE3 users and will now use any kde4 ported stuff.
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Re: Couple of years?
by ac on Tuesday 29/Nov/2005, @13:40
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now = not
Avoiding misinterpretations you are. =P
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Re: Couple of years?
by James Richard Tyrer on Tuesday 29/Nov/2005, @13:58
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I think that if KDE-4.0 is delayed past the end of 2006 that KDE-3.6 should be released. Perhaps it will be necessary to have a 3.6 release for technical reasons in any case.
E.G.: I was told that I can't fix some of the bugs in KView because that will require changes in the documentation which can NOT be changed except for a new minor release (i.e. 3.6.0).
Other than that, I don't see that there are any major new features that are needed for the KDE-3 branch -- that we should concentrate of finding the bugs, fixing the bugs and otherwise polishing the product.
I also think that there should be a final release of the KDE-3.4 branch since some work was done on it after the 3.4.3 release and some people continue to use the older branches for stability reasons.
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Re: Couple of years?
by Scott Wheeler on Wednesday 30/Nov/2005, @01:34
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At some point you have to shift the focus of the development to where people are concentrating on a specific release. Bug fixes and so on can go into old releases -- that's why we have bugfix releases -- but it becomes too tedious to have feature development in two quickly diverging branches (for the things that have already started porting towards KDE 4 this is already the case).
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The Applications will see Updates!
by Hans on Tuesday 29/Nov/2005, @14:30
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Konqueror 3.5 works (Ok, more or less, but there is Firefox, too)
Kicker works
Kdesktop works
KIO-slaves, Dcop work
KGetHotNewStuff works
So, why do you want a new KDE release?
I'm not looking forward to KDE 3.6 but I'm looking forward to the next releases of
Amarok, Digikam, Krita, Firefox, Openoffice, Gimp, Kopete, Speedcrunsh, K3b, Hugin, Gwenview,...
OK, one or two independent Konqueror (+khtml) releases would be nice :-)
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Re: Couple of years?
by Mark on Wednesday 30/Nov/2005, @13:49
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I hope KDE4 is the next release, that way the developers can focus on developing it instead of working on other releases in between.
KDE4 will rock!
We just have to be patient.
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Re: Couple of years?
by Robert on Saturday 03/Dec/2005, @16:49
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That's exactly what KDE 3.5 was.
With only one branch being worked on, everyone will be able to concentrate on progressing to KDE4 and getting their applications ready.
We could of course go through 3.6, 3.7, 3.8, 3.9... 'just to keep the stable users happy', but each one of those will set back KDE4 another 9 months.
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