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Old year blues
by koos on Thursday 29/Dec/2005, @19:31
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Having used kde for quite some time, doing some minor development as well, reading this makes me wonder if any glory is still to gain here. Is it time for something new (or how to keep developers interested)?
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too bad he used NVU to do it
by Patcito on Thursday 29/Dec/2005, @19:41
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he could have used Quanta, another great KDE project.
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Some ideas are stupid
by zvonSully on Friday 30/Dec/2005, @00:57
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"I recommend you two things: First, wait for KDE 3.5.1" ... I say first wait to die and then .. speak with God ;)
"Transitions are never easy, radical switchs can be dissapointing no matter what software it is." ...
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Don't be so damn halfhearted!
by halcyonCorsair on Friday 30/Dec/2005, @01:24
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>"KDE uses too many resources": Yes, that's true.
>"KDE forces me to install many libraries!": Welcome to the world of code reutilization.
>"C++ sucks": Indeed, C++ is not the greatest language invented...
Why do people like to say "yeah, we suck....but other people suck too". Isn't this meant to be an article about why KDE rules? If so, should we not talk about those things that make KDE rule?
Listing a few accusations that a few fanatic minorities like to shout about, and then defending them on the back foot doesn't help.
If you want to make an admission that "yeah things aren't perfect here...or anywhere else", then do so in the middle of a paragraph or somewhere that people don't care about, PLEASE don't do it in the opening sentences.
If your major battle strategy is based around defense, then you've already lost the war. Just ask the French about WW2, and the Maggeno line.
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Too many resources
by Lubos Lunak on Friday 30/Dec/2005, @02:51
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> "KDE uses too many resources": Yes, that's true.
No, that's not true. It is obviously not true, because if it was true, nobody would use KDE.
Would anybody use anything that's "too whatever", especially if there were other alternatives? People who think KDE uses too many resources don't use it. People who do use KDE may perhaps think it uses many resources, but they don't think it's too many - if they use KDE, they apparently think it's worth it.
And, of course, there's also the question whether KDE really uses many resources and what the hell does many resources actually mean.
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Just my 0.2 cents. :o)
by Pascal Klein on Friday 30/Dec/2005, @04:00
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I personally agree with some of the technical issues put into the spot light as well as some of the "usability" examples mentioned, however, and although Diego, you probably meant well, I think that the text takes a somewhat ...aggressive? ...stand and that can well inspire negative feelings in those that are not KDE users.
That, on a whole is not a positive thing and doesn't serve anyone. What do you think Diego?
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Nice read...
by Martin on Friday 30/Dec/2005, @06:28
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...well balanced.
Thanks and all the best to you & everyone else on the dot for 2006!!
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Objective
by Dennie on Friday 30/Dec/2005, @07:41
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I found it an objective story, but that might just be my opinion. ;-)
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One sucky thing in KDE... kmail!
by Anonymous on Friday 30/Dec/2005, @13:49
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No, this is not meant as a troll, but as a cry of despair. Kmail sucks. It has great potential - but there is a tiny little problem.
It's dirt slow on large volumes of email.
I get aprox 800-1000 emails per day through various work-related mailinglists. Most of them automated. I've set up rules to filter them into various folders with kmail.
This works okay.
Then I'm off for a one week vacation...
Between six and seven thousand emails await.
It takes aproximately 60 seconds to fetch and filter 1000 messages.
When trying to filter the 6000 messages, it has only chewed through 200 after 15 MINUTES.
There is something wrong there. It seems like there's an O(n^2) algorithm in there somewhere. Someone has pointed at klistviewer or something like that.. whatever -- in all cases, it's horrible.
Someone has said that it'll be fixed with KDE4.. but that's still a long way off. It would be _Great_ if someone could do something about this in a 3.x update. I feel the urge to move back to mutt more and more every day .. and quite frankly that sucks, as I love the KDE gui. :-)
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Konqueror preloading (instances) performance
by fast_rizwaan on Friday 30/Dec/2005, @22:37
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Preloading konqueror instances won't really speed up konqi loading.
Test: prelaoding enabled
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1. click on HOME/konqueror button (on kicker) takes quite few seconds 3-5 seconds
Doesn't really improve konqi loading... :(
Real Preloading should be (example when preload konquror is disabled)
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1. open 1 HOME/konqueror folder
2. preen ctrl+n (new window)
3. new window appears in just 1/2 sec. now this is snappy...
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KDE uses too much resources, I need a KDE-Beatrix
by Geert on Saturday 31/Dec/2005, @17:22
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I dig the general tone of the article. Every time I tried gnome and KDE, I find myself sticking to KDE after the initial awe for the Gnome desktop.
However, KDE uses too many resources, and has way too many subprojects.
I don't see why KDE would not be able to work as well as windows 2000 or windows 98 on my e-mail-internet 128 Mb, 266 Mhz Computer.
The only recent(?) distribution I found that works well on this hardware was Beatrix: a limited choice of industry standard software in a Gnome desktop. However, every time I install Gnome, after initial awe, I feel frustrated by not being able to do what I want. Even as a total newbie. KDE is able to give more eyecandy, but nothing I tried up to now comes close to Beatrix in being low on resources. Every distribution installs way too much software, users that need them can install themselves.
The look and feel of KDE is very well, but a lot of the packages (games!) freeze before doing anything. Throw them out of your core package.
Moreover, as I understand it, KDE has its common APIs, should it not make more sense to have NO other dependencies in KDE applications, the way Mac does it?
Thanks.
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Resources and windows
by Roland Kaeser on Sunday 01/Jan/2006, @02:35
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Yes it uses to many resources! Thats really true! Try run KDE on a 1GHz Pentium or similar machine and open a konsole. This takes around 10 seconds to start. What happens in this 10 seconds just to open a terminal? I think the developers should take more time on code optimization, especially optimization for speed and reliability. I get at least one kde crash a day. Just start a fvwm2 on your machine or try to install a old linux distribution from around kernel 2.2 and you can see how match faster this ones working on actual hardware.
On the other side kde misses a lot of features which are usual on windows desktops. Who want's diffrent desktop designs or even change the startup screen? THAT DOESN'T MATTER! But a function to arrange the icons on the desktop along a raster without bringing them all disordered would be helpful. Or the possibility to make the kicker wider than 256 pixels (I have a 3 monitor system (matrox parhelia) and the kicker upwards on the left side). Or PLEASE PLEASE this view/viewmode menu to a arrangement which is more user friendly. Windows for sample has it direct in the menu and not hidden in a submenu. About the bottom line try to hire a professional gui designer to optimize this menu chaos in konquerror and the other design bugs in kde. What does it helps when konquerror supports multiple view profiles but no editor to customize it. Does the developer really think a average user goes to edit this text file (if he can find it)?
THAN the whole multimedia apps in kde. It mostly remembers me on the first windows media player and also have in common with it (the wmp) that it crashes all the time and sometimes it plays files and sometimes not.
On priciple i think the main developpers should install a second windows machine just to see how it could work. And then try to get a similar result on kde. Microsoft copied all their technologies from other ones. It's now time that the other ones copies a bit from ms.
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Spell checker
by Francis Burton on Sunday 01/Jan/2006, @08:30
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"The spell checker works everywhere inside KDE BTW."
Then why didn't the author use it?? ;-) Or is it not so easy to use?
Diego, I realize that English is not your first language, but wouldn't that make one even more inclined to use the spell checker? (Btw, your English is vastly better than my Spanish could ever be! Please don't take this criticism too harshly.) I guess my point is that any article will gain in readability and credibility from a bit of language checking/polish.
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