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Resources and windows
by Roland Kaeser on Sunday 01/Jan/2006, @02:35
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Yes it uses to many resources! Thats really true! Try run KDE on a 1GHz Pentium or similar machine and open a konsole. This takes around 10 seconds to start. What happens in this 10 seconds just to open a terminal? I think the developers should take more time on code optimization, especially optimization for speed and reliability. I get at least one kde crash a day. Just start a fvwm2 on your machine or try to install a old linux distribution from around kernel 2.2 and you can see how match faster this ones working on actual hardware.
On the other side kde misses a lot of features which are usual on windows desktops. Who want's diffrent desktop designs or even change the startup screen? THAT DOESN'T MATTER! But a function to arrange the icons on the desktop along a raster without bringing them all disordered would be helpful. Or the possibility to make the kicker wider than 256 pixels (I have a 3 monitor system (matrox parhelia) and the kicker upwards on the left side). Or PLEASE PLEASE this view/viewmode menu to a arrangement which is more user friendly. Windows for sample has it direct in the menu and not hidden in a submenu. About the bottom line try to hire a professional gui designer to optimize this menu chaos in konquerror and the other design bugs in kde. What does it helps when konquerror supports multiple view profiles but no editor to customize it. Does the developer really think a average user goes to edit this text file (if he can find it)?
THAN the whole multimedia apps in kde. It mostly remembers me on the first windows media player and also have in common with it (the wmp) that it crashes all the time and sometimes it plays files and sometimes not.
On priciple i think the main developpers should install a second windows machine just to see how it could work. And then try to get a similar result on kde. Microsoft copied all their technologies from other ones. It's now time that the other ones copies a bit from ms. |
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Re: Resources and windows
by Fri13 on Sunday 01/Jan/2006, @04:38
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> This takes around 10 seconds to start.
> What happens in this 10 seconds just to open a terminal?
Why do i get konsole open under 1 second? I have KDE 3.5.
In KDE 3.1.x series Konsole did take long time to open, about 3-5 seconds. 3.2.x series it gt much better times but 3.4.x series really blowed speed up so there is not almoust any delay.
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Re: Resources and windows
by superstoned on Sunday 01/Jan/2006, @04:59
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sorry, but WHAT are you talking about? you can arrange icons in 1000 ways, including every way windows could do it...
profiles? editor? what would you need an editor for? change your setup and save profile, thats what a profile is for... duh... every moron could use it, sorry...
and they hid the window things in a submenu because nobody used it and the menu became too crowded. good choice, imho!
and i already answered the performance moan above your post - to summarize:
1. don't expect 2005 Desktop Environment with the performance of an 1998 OS, that's stupid.
2. Lots of KDE's performance problems aren't KDE's fault, but due to the underlying stack of applications and systems - kernel, Xorg, libraries, C++ compiler peformance.
Hard work is being done on all these things - most KDE performance improvements are actually improvements in underlying structures, made in cooperation with KDE devs. Qt4/KDE4 will bring is at least 20% less memory usage, Hardware Accellerated display (Xgl) and a huge cleanup of the libraries, most probably increasing the 20% less memory to maybe even 30 or 40% (maybe a bit optimistic, but hey, one can dream?).
you're right on the multimedia track, but again - its mostly NOT kde's fault. there simply is NO default multimedia framework under linux, and KDE can't write its own (as it would just clash with the others). we'll just have to wait for gstreamer and the like to get stuff finally working well.
the dev's are working on usabillity, but again - there is nothing windows does better than KDE on this plane. c'mon, only because it has lots less features makes it look cleaner. you know those lovely config dialogues with several LAYERS of tabs in windows? impossible to navigate? ever seen that in KDE? sorry, but KDE can do 1000x what winXP can, and still isn't much more crowded (Konqueror might be the exception here, it is quite a bit more crowded compared to Explorer, but it can do much much more so i can forgive it).
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Re: Resources and windows
by D Rollings on Sunday 01/Jan/2006, @12:00
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You are dealing with a severe error in configuration! You *might* have a network issue; in some cases, I've seen misconfigured DNS produce these symptoms. You also need to make sure your binaries are <A HREF="http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/prelink-howto.xml">prelinked</A>, your drivers aren't horribly off, and that you don't have a mangled and bloated font directory setup. For some setups, disabling arTs and relying on hardware sound mixing helps a lot. Seriously, I get nearly instant response from my hotkey bound to Konsole on my older Athlon 800.
When I installed Linux on my laptop, I went through several iterations of window managers and environments, trying to get the leanest setup I could. By the time I had all my regular applications loaded - FireFox especially, along with others - I realized that KDE would have reused its libraries more, been just as spry, and taken up no great amount of resources considering all the extra functionality it offered. It's worth the time to get it right.
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Re: Resources and windows
by rinse on Sunday 01/Jan/2006, @16:12
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>Yes it uses to many resources! Thats really true! Try run KDE on a 1GHz Pentium or similar machine and open a konsole. This takes around 10 seconds to start
Hmm, sounds like a configuration problem.
i installed kde on several +/- 1 ghz machines with 128 mb ram or more, and konsole starts in just a second on all machines...
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Re: Resources and windows
by Thomas on Monday 02/Jan/2006, @09:37
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> This takes around 10 seconds to start.
I'm working on an 1.2 GHz Intel with 256 Mb atm....
I did not open konsole before (so no caching whatsoever).
Konsole opens instantly. No way to measure this, as it's clearly less than a second. (KDE 3.5 on archlinux noodle)
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Re: Resources and windows
by Mike on Tuesday 03/Jan/2006, @00:33
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No, please don't do it. Dont feed the troll!
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Ahhh, too late :(
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