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Re: KDE
by Anonymous Coward on Monday 02/Jan/2006, @12:14

> Perhaps quality of KDE will convince RedHat that the desktop market is worth a second try.

LOL! What's your second guess? They have been pouring eons of money into Gnome for ages now and can't (human nature) possibly stop now.

Moving KDE to unsupported territory via 'Unleash KDE' hassle is just a trial to not upset too many people about this. Trust me on this, they are not KDE friendly people in any way. They try to steer as many people away from it as possible.

Sadly, to me it looks like SUSE is now taking the same path. But as usual, they are few steps behind. Lets hope i'm wrong though.

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Re: KDE
by Troels Just on Monday 02/Jan/2006, @14:39

"Sadly, to me it looks like SUSE is now taking the same path. But as usual, they are few steps behind. Lets hope i'm wrong though."
Well, you're wrong. :P

Even though Novell has chosen to use GNOME as their default desktop environment on their enterprise products (SUSE Linux Enterprise Server, Novell Linux Desktop...), KDE is still included and works just as well as it did when it was the default desktop environment, if you want KDE on Novell's enterprise products, you just choose it when it asks you whether to install GNOME or KDE. So Novell supports both environments, just to quote an interview with Greg Mancusi-Ungaro:
"We want to continue to do the right thing for customers, we're gonna continue to ship both, the change that we made in our public stance, is really a very minor one I think in the long whole."

As far as the good old "SUSE Linux" goes, it will still have KDE as it's default desktop, and KDE and GNOME will be given equal focus, so it will still be the good old SUSE Linux we've known for years.

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Re: KDE
by Anonymous Coward on Monday 02/Jan/2006, @21:28

> As far as the good old "SUSE Linux" goes, it will still have KDE as it's default desktop, and KDE and GNOME will be given equal focus

Hardly. Gnomes framework mostly sucks, it takes ten times the money to get it working in any decent way.

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Re: KDE
by Josh Boyer on Monday 02/Jan/2006, @15:46

>Moving KDE to unsupported territory via 'Unleash KDE' hassle is just a trial to
>not upset too many people about this. Trust me on this, they are not KDE friendly
>people in any way. They try to steer as many people away from it as possible.

It's worth mentioning that Fedora, as a whole, is unsupported by Red Hat. So moving it to Extras makes no difference from a support statement.

As for being KDE friendly, traditionally this is true. However quite a few developers are tiring of what Gnome is becoming and are switching to KDE.

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Re: KDE
by brother on Tuesday 03/Jan/2006, @13:50

which developers you speak of?

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Re: KDE
by ac on Tuesday 03/Jan/2006, @14:10

me obviously ;-)

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Re: KDE
by Jim Cornette on Tuesday 06/Jun/2006, @20:51

KDE is not much different in appearance since the BlueCurve move which was implemented awhile back. I see little difference between the initial look but see many differences in configuration for the desktops. The QT issue from earlier days does make one weary regarding depending on one desktop alone and increasing its user base. My reluctance is rather in how I percieve KDE and its functionality and feel.
If Red Hat discourages or encourages KDE usage is not known by me. I see both choices given updates frequently.

Regarding support, both Core and Extras packages use the same bugzilla reporting site. If it is busted, reports to bugzilla should be resolved upstream or downstream.

I am tiring of GNOME "simplification" but am not compelled to switch to KDE because of it. Currently, I am using xfce as a desktop. Next session will be another choice, GNOME is my highly used choice.

Regarding Rex and what he can add to KDE development/maintenence for Fedora, the influence and dediction to work in both directions with KDE development and integration with Fedora should be a highly successful venture.

Jim Cornette

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