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kchart is still messed up
by MamiyaOtaru on Wednesday 01/Feb/2006, @15:12
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kchart forces you to do some really strange things to display a pie chart. I keep wondering if it will ever change.. have a look at the image:
http://img494.imageshack.us/my.php?image=piechartmess2ev.png
Seems to be getting worse, I don't remember having to leave a blank row before. |
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Re: kchart is still messed up
by Robert Knight on Wednesday 01/Feb/2006, @17:45
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Hi,
I made that change. The first Row is assumed to be column labels (eg. "Month" , "Sales"). The leftmost Column is assumed to be row labels (eg. "January", "February" etc.)
Under KChart 1.4, you had to manually click on the table headers to set up labels for series or rows. This means it was slow because you couldn't do it easily via the keyboard. I also found it non-intuitive, since in spreadsheets etc. the first column and last row are usually used for such labels.
The other thing is that the default data layout has been changed from data in rows to data in columns, ie:
Month | Sales
Jan | X
Feb | Y
Instead of:
Month | Jan | Feb
Sales | X | Y
The rationale is that most tables of data are presented in the first format rather than the second (which is why almost all spreadsheet packages have many more rows than columns), so KChart now expects data in the first format by default.
I will see what I can do to make the KChart Data Editor more intuitive for the final KOffice 1.5 release. Thanks for the feedback.
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Re: kchart is still messed up
by Inge Wallin on Thursday 02/Feb/2006, @04:11
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Yes, KChart is a bit messed up in the beta, I'm sorry for that. The reason is that we got a completely new engine just before the beta, and I didn't have time to fix all the other TODOs. I promise you that you will have a easy and intuitive data editor until the final release of 1.5.
Aside from that, a pie chart is not very good to display two-dimensional data. Try the ring chart instead.
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Re: kchart is still messed up
by MamiyaOtaru on Friday 03/Feb/2006, @03:29
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Thank you for your responses. The link is to a pic of the equivalent situation in 1.4. http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=piechart14mess4ps.png
It was nice to have the labels separate from the data, but I see your reasoning for changing it. Having to click on each one could be a bit of a pain. Still, something to separate it from the data itself, a label above it calling it the "label column/row", or maybe the row/column with the labels could be a different color, something.
Ring charts were mentioned. They suffer from the same affliction as pie charts (at least in 1.4, to which I have just temporarily downgraded). At any rate, pie charts remain popular, so I hope both can be fixed. Best of luck, I look forward to the next beta!
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Re: kchart is still messed up
by MamiyaOtaru on Friday 03/Feb/2006, @03:33
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I called kchart 1.5 a horrible regression in the picture in the parent post, sorry for that. I made it straight after downgrading and before checking if there were any responses to my original post. I then read those and it explained what had happened and your reasoning, and I forgot to change the pic. Anyway, keep at it!
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