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Kanotix & PCLinuxOS
by Abe on Sunday 23/Apr/2006, @12:14
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There is a lot of talk about K/Ubuntu and I am not sure if it is worth it. Currently, I seriously don't see anything that makes it better than other distros. Suse 10.x is more reliable and robust, so is Kanotix and PCLinuxOS. There are many features that they have or work better but missing in K/Ubuntu or don't work as good. Every time there was a new release of K/Ubuntu, I burn a cd and end up disappointed and feel I wasted a cd for nothing. K/ubuntu has potential because of the financial backing, but that doesn't make it better. I applaud Kanotix & PCLinuxOS developers for a first class distro even though they only have limited resource.
Note: I am not a troll. I never used Windows at home. I have been using Suse for 5 years and Kanotix for a year. Occationally, I look into PCLinuxOS and other distros. By the way, the three above are mainly commited to KDE and Ubuntu is not. I think it is a mistake and may be it has to do with commercialization of Ubuntu in the future. |
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Re: Kanotix & PCLinuxOS
by De-obfuscator on Monday 24/Apr/2006, @12:29
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>>Note: I am not a troll. I never used Windows at home.
My Dad always claimed he was not an alcoholic. "I'm not an alcoholic, son" he would say, as he smacked me back and forth and downed another 12 pack of Hamms. He died of cirrhosis at the age of 45, all the while claiming it was the pesticides on the trees where he worked (he was a mechanic and worked indoors.)
My advice to you is quite simple: If you feel like you have to post "I am not a troll", then you are trolling. There are a number of clinics where you can get together with other close-minded zealots, and you can talk openly with one another. Tuesdays are "My desktop environment it better than yours", followed by Friday night's "My distro is better than yours"..
I use KDE on Ubuntu. Each to his own, eh? One size does not fit all. Also, Suse is dropping KDE as default.... You *did* know this, right?
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Re: Kanotix & PCLinuxOS
by Abe on Tuesday 25/Apr/2006, @13:37
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Yes to each his own and what I was presenting is my opinion of Ubuntu and my discust with the big hupla being created about nothing.
No, I am not a troll and I don't care one way or the other because I am happy with what I have. Keep in mind though, that people who lie think everyone else are liers. So may be your are the troll after all.
May be Suse is dropping KDE as the default, but they still support it. Ubuntu hasn't been as supportive.
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Re: Kanotix & PCLinuxOS
by fred on Wednesday 26/Apr/2006, @15:36
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I gotta agree. Ubuntu gets lots of "free" press, but it's not that great of a distro. Kanotix does far more out of the box. The last time I tried Ubuntu, it had all kinds of silly errors and missing packages that it took forever to get into a working, usable, system.
Usable to me means that all movie formats work, for example, that two accounts can be logged into the GUI at the same time on the same machine without silly errors, etc.
Kubuntu probably isn't worth using until Ubuntu makes it standard. When one installs a GUI app from a Ubuntu repository, both menu systems (KDE and GNOME) should be updated, etc. It was silly for Ubuntu not to include both from the start.
Ubuntu still needs Debian repostories to make it in the real world, which, IMO, defeats the whole purpose. Kanotix uses real Debian repos, and I'm rather up to date, recent KDE, xorg, etc. What was the point of Ubuntu getting their own repos agan??
Kanotix has a lush KDE setup, the perfect combination of speed and features. The right-click menus are stocked full of handy items - extract here for archives, etc., and it's FAST, even on older systems - the fastest KDE distro I've ever used. They must have cut something, but I can't find anything missing...
I so often hear, in the outside, non-linux world, ubuntu mentioned as a major ditro. For example they will mention Mac, Windows and Ubuntu...Why, lol? No offense to anyone, but nothing makes Ubuntu special. It's not the best Desktop distro, it's not the best newbie distro, it's not the best live distro, it's not the best business distro, it's not the best hacker/do it yourself distro (though sometimes I think it tries). It doesn't even make 4th or 5th place in any of those categories...
If you want a robust business distro, use SUSE. If you want a damn-good "it's in there" live distro, use Kanotix. Kanotix also makes a damn-fine liveCD, with unionfs and klik, you can add many packages to your live session. You can get flash and other non-free stuff NEEDED for a modern browsing experience without BS which is why I found it amusing that there is a vmware saved state machine for ubuntu, of all distros, available for download! I haven't tried it yet, but it's supposed to be for use as a browsing system - but I wonder if it comes with flash, java, the ability to view quicktime movies, etc. If not, who would use it to browse?
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Re: Kanotix & PCLinuxOS
by Reza on Wednesday 26/Apr/2006, @23:57
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+1 to Kanotix.
It's just it sometimes break when dist-upgraded to Debian. Oh, well.
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Re: Kanotix & PCLinuxOS
by Yeah Right on Friday 28/Apr/2006, @17:10
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>Currently, I seriously don't see anything that makes it better than other distros.
The one thing that makes K/Ubuntu better than SUSE above all else is the 17.000+ packages that are easily installable with apt-get. There's no hassle with trying to find additional repositories, or hunting for an rpm for your distro.
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Re: Kanotix & PCLinuxOS
by Abe on Monday 01/May/2006, @16:42
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As if Suse doesn't have all those same 17,000 apps! Suse has YaST which is as user friendly as APT. Kanotix & PCLinuxOS also use Debian repositories and use Kpackage which is even simpler and more user friendly than apt-get. Your point has no merits. In my opinion, the only thing K/Ubutnu is good for is the finnacial resources "Shuttleworth" has available. Other than that, it still has ways to get to the level of Kanotix, PCLinuxOS & Suse. I guess this is enough debating. To each his own. When K/Ubuntu gets to par with others, then I might think about using it, but for now, it is not good enough, plain and simple.
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um hello
by Only_the_Truth on Friday 02/Jun/2006, @08:50
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couple of points:
1) If you think Yast is as user friendly as synaptic with apt, you're smoking crack
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2) PCLinuxOS does NOT use Debian repositories. It's an RPM BASED DISTRO (which started out as a fork of Mandrake to be exact)which uses SYNAPTIC.
Fact checking before venting is always a plus :)
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Re: Kanotix & PCLinuxOS
by brian on Monday 22/May/2006, @17:06
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I have played with a ton of distros. Kubuntu would not install,Simply Mepis is way too simple, PC Linux had a wonderful sharpness to it but I really fell for Kanotix. I have it running on several pc's and a laptop perfectly. Now and then I stray and play with a few other debian distros but nothing has even come close to the speed and ease of use. I will say however that it is rather ugly out of the box.
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