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Re: And why not fixing the bugs first?
by me on Tuesday 06/Jun/2006, @01:01
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I just don't have the skills :-)
The Koffice crew seem to be quite talented, it's just that it just isn't as good as OpenOffice yet, in my opinion. I can't really use it for real work (I've tried before), but I'd like to because it's promising and cool.
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Re: And why not fixing the bugs first?
by Boudewijn Rempt on Tuesday 06/Jun/2006, @01:07
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Well, before I started on Krita I hadn't got the skills either. I had never written more than a dozen lines of C++, but it's an easy thing to learn on the job. It's just a matter of getting started and after that some perseverance.
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Re: And why not fixing the bugs first?
by somekool on Saturday 10/Jun/2006, @19:58
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lets make things straight. OpenOffice is slow as hell and unsable. their pretending compatibility with microsoft product is a joke. and only Microsoft Office really works with those documents. also OpenOffice only copy what Microsoft did and really does not improove anywhere.
KOffice however is lighting fast and has great stuff that no other suite has. it does miss few important features and still have bugs. but its a charm to use. I do use it for production use as well as many other KDE user I'm sure. ideas in this suit are way ahead and koffice is the only Office suite that actually considered what computer life will be from 2007
also remember there is not many koffice developers. and what they did since 1.0 is amazing. clap clap clap
keep going guys. you're doing an awesome job. dont listen to flamers and gives us the best office suite for KDE 4
gambatte kudasai
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Re: And why not fixing the bugs first?
by Thomas Zander on Tuesday 06/Jun/2006, @01:23
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I support you implementing whats missing, very good idea! You don't even need to fork you can do it right into the KOffice svn repository, all you need to do is send in the patches.
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Re: And why not fixing the bugs first?
by josel on Wednesday 07/Jun/2006, @08:31
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Great. Someone raises valid concern/criticism and you just tell him to code it himself. Regardless it its developed for fun maybe the developers would like to have and use the critique positively.
He's just wront about krita.
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Re: And why not fixing the bugs first?
by Ariya on Wednesday 07/Jun/2006, @13:02
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What kind of concern/criticism? Let me quote: "The spreadsheet is a joke" does not tell the developers anything.
Not everyone has a crystal ball. At least, I don't.
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Spreadsheet
by Juergen on Wednesday 07/Jun/2006, @17:25
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Even OOo Calc lacks some important features in the graphical representation of numbers. The scaling of x/y isn't up to snuff. Then the embedded programming language isn't really usable either for serious work. I use OOo Writer and sometimes KOffice (rarely) but Excel unfortunatelty is still way ahead and the only winDOS program of use (but big one).
Juergen
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Re: Spreadsheet
by PGK1 on Sunday 10/Sep/2006, @05:30
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OOCalc is a very good spreadsheet as I find it much more stable than MS Excel when working on the same large data sets. I tried to open up the same ODS sheets in KSpread but it crashed (perhaps 25 columns of 10,000-12,500 data points is too much?) but I do have a few things that OOCalc should have:
1. The ability to put the equation of the best-fit line ON the graph.
2. The ability to plot multiple data sets on an XY graph and have them be independent data sets as in MS Excel.
3. To not have to completely recalculate the graph if I move it on a page but do not resize.
4. To be able to scale the X-axis in a regular line graph instead of putting a marker for each X value down there.
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Re: And why not fixing the bugs first?
by Anonymous Coward on Friday 09/Jun/2006, @02:27
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The spreadsheet _is_ a joke (or at least was last time I checked).
gnumeric is the only good spreadsheet I've found for any platform.
Constructivly:
The charting-functionality seems to be pretty bad. When I use spreadsheets what I mostly do is dump in some numbers from somewhere, then graph them. With gnumeric it's a breeze .. with kSpread .. I don't find the graph in the image that is generated!
Hmf.
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They are not bugs, they are missing features
by Bilbophile on Sunday 11/Jun/2006, @22:54
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I am not sure these are bugs, they may be a lack of features/immaturity of the concept. I do think that the metaphors used by KOffice make more sense than the ones of MS Office - cloned by OpenOffice.org - and I would very much like to learn it and use it for work and play.
Unfortunately, I translate doc and pps documents written by people who would not learn MS Office properly, let alone learn how to use another suite on a different OS altogether; or worse, I sometimes work on documents developed by several people - often embedding more different source data - with less experienced people ignoring and mangling the careful settings of the more experienced ones because of the dumb, opaque interface.
With KOffice I resent the lack of adecquate language tools and more importantly the lack of good compatibility with the MS Office file formats. Those are the reasons I am not learning how to use KOffice and why I use it only to edit/change the format of PDFs I occasionally have to translate.
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Re: They are not bugs, they are missing features
by Madman on Sunday 25/May/2008, @18:49
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<i>on a different OS altogether;</i>
Ermem, KDE 4 ==> Windows port. Can't wait to use a fully functional Koffice 2.0 in Windows.
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