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Re: A distribution to watch
by Whistler on Wednesday 12/Jul/2006, @19:28

> [...] their incredible Chinese market share [...]

Actually most of the GNU/Linux users here are _not_ using the Red Flag GNU/Linux. Only the government will buy a lot copy of it (but whether they actually _use_ it or not is a separate issue).

That distribution is heavily tainted & freedom-subtracted (as it contains a whole bunch of proprietary fonts, drivers and others), and you'll also face many trouble with installing other software (as there are no apt, yum or so).

But if they are honest to contribute to KDE, I think it's still a good thing. I just hope they are not attempting to keep KDE under their monopolic control (from cjacker: the only way to solve all the problems of GNU/Linux is to keep it under the monopolic control of a big company). J/K though :)

Wei Mingzhi alias Whistler

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Re: A distribution to watch
by Whistler on Wednesday 12/Jul/2006, @19:32

Oh and forgot to mention: there are actually _not_ many GNU/Linux users in China. Everyone is using unauthorized copies of Microsoft Windows, except free software zealots like me :)

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Re: A distribution to watch
by cjacker on Thursday 13/Jul/2006, @08:02

I want to clarify that it's absolutely wrong for you to say that everyone in China is using unauthorized copies of MS windows. On what ground do you say so?

You know why some of the Chinese users are using the distributions other than Redflag Linux? Coz they think that the moon abroad is much brighter than the one in China.

About the above statistics of market share, you can get it from IDC.

at last,As Chinese, I am shame on you.

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Re: A distribution to watch
by Whistler on Thursday 13/Jul/2006, @22:42

> You know why some of the Chinese users are using the distributions other
> than Redflag Linux? Coz they think that the moon abroad is much brighter
> than the one in China.

LOL, this is interesting: everyone who uses GNU/Linux but don't use yours are traitors. Doesn't you mean this?

I use Debian GNU/Linux because it isn't freedom-subtracted, and it's better... uh, more suitable for me. If you can give a distribution which is better than this one, I'll use yours too. But you don't, so no way.

> About the above statistics of market share, you can get it from IDC.

I don't think any statistics can have unauthorized copies count. So that is the case.

And I don't trust them either.

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Re: A distribution to watch
by cjacker on Thursday 13/Jul/2006, @08:03

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Re: A distribution to watch
by Whistler on Thursday 13/Jul/2006, @22:26

I could have added an "almost" before "everyone". Sorry for miswording.

But you have to admit the problems. It's not about nationalism, it's about being honest.

As for what you have done for free software, I would like to thank for you contribution. It's true that I have contributed less than you (but not none!), but that doesn't mean I have to thank you for _everything_.

Whistler

PS: please stop insulting me at linuxfans.org, as I did not insult you.

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Re: A distribution to watch
by Whistler on Friday 14/Jul/2006, @00:07

OK, as someone may misread this, just a clarification:

I don't say that I'm in any way "different" from the Chinese, as I'm Chinese too. I just mean that there is a problem, and we should face it instead of fooling others as well as ourselves. And please don't try to find other things in my bad wording.

I hope this is the end of the thread.

Thanks
Whistler

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Re: A distribution to watch
by cjacker on Thursday 13/Jul/2006, @17:23

"I just hope they are not attempting to keep KDE under their monopolic control (from cjacker: the only way to solve all the problems of GNU/Linux is to keep it under the monopolic control of a big company). J/K though :)"
yes, this is my sign in linuxfans.org, you also forgot that I said, any company is ok.

I works with Linux for 9 years, also works for FreeBSD for 2 years.

I know where we had troubles. I know why users can not use linux easily.

You know nothing about this.

I remember what I said, I also take responsibility for what I said.

do you know what is ABI compatibility?
do you know the troubles that ISV faces?

.....
You just stay home, play linux, and think yourself is so cool.

What had you done for Linux?

anyway, you can say anything you like.

But remember, "Love your motherland, Do something for your motherland, if you think something is not so good, take effort to change your motherland, this is the difference between people and animal."

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Re: A distribution to watch
by Whistler on Thursday 13/Jul/2006, @22:30

Please don't insult me like this. I _do_ know about these things.

Especially, don't assume everyone who disagrees with you are all idiots who just "play linux, and think yourself is so cool". I don't "play (with)" GNU/Linux, and I don't think myself if "cool" to use GNU/Linux either.

Thanks

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Re: A distribution to watch
by Whistler on Thursday 13/Jul/2006, @23:15

> But remember, "Love your motherland, Do something for your motherland, if you think something is not so good, take effort to change your motherland, this is the difference between people and animal."

Oh and I forgot to tell you: I do love my nation, and I won't tolerate someone saying something like "all Chinese are ****". But that doesn't me I have to deny all of the problems in this nation.

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Re: A distribution to watch
by James Su on Friday 14/Jul/2006, @01:11

Don't you think it's very ridiculous arguing such silly things on a public international technical forum?

Please just shut up and back to code.
Nothing is important than your contribution back to Free and Open Source Software community.

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