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Improvements, Stability, New Features
by James Richard Tyrer on Thursday 03/Aug/2006, @22:31
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I am not having a good day and this is my rant:
My objective assessment is that things are not improving.
We have the kicker problems (child panels vs. icons, and vertical external taskbar size) which haven't been fixed.
It would be nice to be able to have icons on the DeskTop without having them rearranged everytime KDE starts up.
The DeskTop device icons are seriously broken. The CD doesn't work the same as the floppies. My CD ROM drive is only recognized as a CD Writer and there seems to be some confusion between a drive and a disk. The CD only shows on the DeskTop if it has a disk in it (empty drive would be a good option). But the floppies are there all the time (they are drives not disks). I have a 3.5 and a 5.25 floppy. The Control Center makes a distinction between them although for some reason a 3.5 floppy is just a floppy. Doesn't work on the DeskTop -- they both have the same icon again (used to work once I put the correct devices in fstab).
The configuration for the DeskTop devices doesn't work correctly (again).
Suddenly Konqueror quit working on some on-line banking and credit card sites. I found a non-banking site with the same error -- what is "Error 500"?
I think that all of these issues are regressions. This stuff used to work from last week to a few versions ago.
And then tonight, Ark crashed and lost the archive with all my on-line banking passwords. I have also noticed more random crashes of Konqueror in the last two months.
So, I see the new KDE release as pretty much broken, and I can't help wondering why developers would release stuff before they got it to work correctly. Do the developers actually use the current release of KDE?
I am also concerned that KDE now relies on DBus and HAL which are not really ready for general release yet and seem to be poorly documented -- are there up to date HOWTOs on these and UDEV anywhere? My Zip drive mounts fine (I do wonder why it doesn't have an "eject") but I get an error message with the CD or the conventional floppies. I wonder if I can go back to the old methods that worked perfectly. It is real cool for the system to detect that I inserted a new CD and ask me what to do with it, but it would be nicer if I could click on the icon and it would mount correctly.
So, I have to think that I accidentally installed the development release rather than the stable release. If this was the development release, this would be fine because if this stuff is fixed so that it works correctly it will be really nice. But, I couldn't recommend the current KDE release to anyone and I am wondering what my options are since I can't use something this broken.
Boudewijn appears to be correct that developers can not properly evaluate their own work. If this is true, there is no hope that TQM can help solve the problem. |
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Re: Improvements, Stability, New Features
by AC on Friday 04/Aug/2006, @02:11
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Checked some of your problems in suse 10.1 with kde 3.5.4, but they are not there?
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Re: Improvements, Stability, New Features
by James Richard Tyrer on Friday 04/Aug/2006, @13:23
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I have no doubt that you are correct in this statement - YMMV after all.
Some of the DBus & HAL issues are probably configuration issues. But, without good documentation and with no GUI configuration for it in Control Center, if it doesn't work there is little that a user can do:
http://home.earthlink.net/~tyrerj/kde/DBus00.png
This isn't exactly a user friendly error message is it?
XML is making it harder to fix such issues by editing configuration files by hand. As we go to more and more complicated underlying technologies we must have GUI configuration available for them.
Other problems only occur with specific configurations.
http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128552
This is still reported with SuSE 10.0. It can be fixed in you build from source by using an older version of one file.
And the kicker child panel vs. icon issue only occurs with child panels -- especially if you have autohide child panels. I think that it is only the autohide child panels that cause the DeskTop icons to get rearranged.
Distros may have fixed some of these issues, but should we rely on distros to fix our bugs?
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Re: Improvements, Stability, New Features
by gnulinuxman on Saturday 05/Aug/2006, @13:58
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I'm using KDE 3.5.4 on Kubuntu, and even with 3.5.2-3.5.4, I haven't had any of the problems you're describing.
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Re: Improvements, Stability, New Features
by James Richard Tyrer on Monday 07/Aug/2006, @21:58
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Do you have a 5.25 inch floppy drive?
Do you do on-line banking with the Bank of America?
Do you have a Chase VISA card?
Do you have a CD-ROM drive (i.e. READ only)?
Bug 128552 was fixed after the 3.5.4 release. Have you tried a _vertical_ External TaskBar with "length set to "3%" and: "Expand as required to fit contents" checked?
Do you have autohide Child Panels that cover DeskTop icon when they unhide?
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Re: Improvements, Stability, New Features
by 2cents on Monday 14/Aug/2006, @01:20
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I had no big issues with kde 3.5.4, but my online banking doesn't work anymore, it work great with firefox and used to work with konqueror 3.5.3
I can't connect to any pages of https://directnet.dexia.be/
The Bank told me they haven't changed anything to their site,...
Is someone able to connect with konqueror 3.5.4
Maybe a SSL Problem?
Any thought?
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