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Re: Tenor?
by jayKayEss on Saturday 19/Aug/2006, @08:53

Seems like Tenor is not so important now that there's a decent KDE frontend to Beagle. I've been using it in SuSE and it's quite nice.

http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1820

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Re: Tenor?
by aaa on Saturday 19/Aug/2006, @09:13

This is not the point at all. Beagle is a desktop search engine. Tenor is/was supposed to be a contextual linkage engine, see my previous post for the difference among the two.

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Re: Tenor?
by hill on Saturday 19/Aug/2006, @12:01

Isn't that a file system job?

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Re: Tenor?
by Aaron Krill on Saturday 19/Aug/2006, @14:58

Ok, its been a while since I've posted here, what the HECK is with that crazy anti-spam thing? Thats funny...

It isn't at the moment, but it should be. Unfortunately the three most used fileystsme (Ext3, XFS, and my favorite, ReiserFS) don't support this, and don't support plugins. Reiser4 does, but nobody uses it since it's not in the kernel yet.

But then someone would still have to write a plugin for Reiser4 to make it handle contextual linkage, which would majorly increase read/write time for the filesystem and also increase the filesystem's footprint.

For now its best left to userspace, where we can pick and choose what gets what kind of information.

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Re: Tenor?
by Corbin on Saturday 19/Aug/2006, @16:44

No, Tenor was meant to be able to search in ways such as 'file John sent me' and be able to see all files that you received from 'John' (whether you got them via an email in KMail, or over IM in Kopete). Stuff like that beagle can't do without lots of help, because the programs (in this case, kmail and kopete) would need to include the functionality to say either in the extended attributes of the file, or tell some central DB that 'John sent this file'. The file system has no way to know which program created/modified the file, much less that it was John that sent the file to you.

So the difference:
With Beagle you search for stuff in the file (eg, contains the phrase "the dogs are weird!"), with Tenor you would search for stuff ABOUT the file(eg, "file I sent John" or "file I downloaded from svn.kde.org").

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Re: Tenor?
by Derek R. on Sunday 20/Aug/2006, @02:15

Personally, I don't want to even touch that Mono thing. In Gnome camp they are desperate to use Mono because it's clear that GTK and C are not leading them anywhere, but KDE has already a very nice and not encumbered development framework. Beagle solves an interesting problem, but a pure KDE solution is still needed IMHO.

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Re: Tenor?
by Mark Hannessen on Sunday 20/Aug/2006, @02:55

C is not THAT bad, and mono uses gtk# for it's gui.
the only real benifit i see is that this will give you a object orientated langauge.

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