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kde on Win ?
by cobalt on Saturday 19/Aug/2006, @06:57
is there a chance, that one glory day we'll see KDE running natively on Windows? because I miss it every time I am forced (you know, *the evil forces*) to use a Windowsmachine. i miss Koffice and Knotes and Kalarm and Kontact and most of all I miss my beloved Konqueror, because it is much better, faster and much more convenient than Firefox.
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Re: kde on Win ?
by Richard Moore on Saturday 19/Aug/2006, @07:00
Yes, this is planned for KDE 4. The development code already compiles on win32.

Rich.
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  • Re: kde on Win ?
    by cobalt on Saturday 19/Aug/2006, @07:11
    thank you. :-))
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  • Re: kde on Win ?
    by bsander on Saturday 19/Aug/2006, @07:16
    Are we talking Cygwin here or is it the real deal?
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    • Re: kde on Win ?
      by cobalt on Saturday 19/Aug/2006, @07:23
      i meant "the real deal" and if I got it right, Richard meant the same.
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      • Re: kde on Win ?
        by Richard Moore on Saturday 19/Aug/2006, @07:27
        Yes, that's right. TrollTech released a GPL version of Qt 4 for win32 which makes it possible for us to support it natively in KDE too.
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        • Re: kde on Win ?
          by cobalt on Saturday 19/Aug/2006, @12:59
          my english ist poor, but wouldn't that be a nice name for the Windows-KDE: "KDE 4 The real deal"? ,-)
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          • Re: kde on Win ?
            by Lee on Friday 01/Sep/2006, @09:10
            No! That would imply that the original KDE was inferior somehow.
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No way!
by bye on Sunday 20/Aug/2006, @09:21
I wish it will never happen, there is enough work to do on kde4 itself and porting to win32 is sabotage. Here is a short list of reasons for those who still doubt http://www.fefe.de/nowindows/

And if it ever happened, the win32 version would always remain a second-class citizen with more bugs, which would give bad publicity to the whole KDE project.
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  • Re: No way!
    by Derek R. on Sunday 20/Aug/2006, @10:14
    I agree that if it's too much work to make it as good as the *nix version and if's going to give a bad name to KDE it shouldn't be done.

    The 'sabotage' argument is nonsense IMHO. First, because if you want people to leave Windows you just have to give them something better. No free OS is there yet, even if KDE is far superior as a desktop. And second, as long as open formats are used, I couldn't care less if my neighbour uses Windows or not. Promoting Free Software and open formats in the Windows platform *is* a good thing.
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  • Re: No way!
    by Debian User on Sunday 20/Aug/2006, @14:53
    There is now way, you could stop the convergence of operating systems. They are converging on several levels:

    a) Virtualization. Every OS can run any other mainstream OS now.
    b) Emulation. You can run Linux programs on Windows and Windows programs on Linux fairly well now.
    c) Porting. More and more software starts to work on both platforms.

    At the end, when people will look at things like cost, there is no way, a non-free OS can compete except where there is "piracy".

    Being on Windows will attract a huge host of application developers, that will benefit KHTML (konqueror), etc. the mind share of many people is there now, and picking them up where they are, and not where they should be, is the right thing to do. Like working on Koffice :-)

    When KOffice runs on Windows, this will HURT the company Microsoft so bad, you cannot imagine. OpenOffice is a monster, KOffice may just be what people want.

    One has to wonder, how long people can sustain to develop costly software where there is free alternatives that are tendentially better.

    And I suspect, KDE on Windows will see a influx of developers who pick up with their know how. Most of the hard issues are solved by QT already, Many of the Linuxisms have been seen in BSD and Solaris supports. So it's not going to be too bad...

    Yours, Kay
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  • Re: No way!
    by Lee on Friday 01/Sep/2006, @09:09
    The other possibility, and the more likely one, is that KDE on windows would move ahead, just due to the number of developers available there, and that KDE/*ix would get left behind. This happens with emulators that are available on both windows and *ix, such as UAE.
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Re: kde on Win ?
by Bobby Rockers on Monday 28/Aug/2006, @12:29
Unfortunately so
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