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  People Behind KDE: Celeste Lyn Paul
Interviews Posted by Jonathan Riddell on Wednesday 30/Aug/2006, @14:15
from the celestial dept.
Today's People Behind KDE features the American lass who is forging the KDE 4 Human Interface Guidelines. Find out the advantage of a hobby against job, what is wrong with Fruit Salad plus the good fortune of one KDE convert as we interview Celeste Lyn Paul.


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by nobody on Wednesday 30/Aug/2006, @15:32
Celeste :-), your work for KDE is highly appreciated, and I look forward to
KDE4 to rock the Usability-world, and btw you are a goddammed good-looking girl.
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I agree with the first poster...
by Aaron Krill on Wednesday 30/Aug/2006, @17:42
You are a very good looking girl. Cuteness and intelligence rolled into a single package. I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who has a bit of a thing for you ;-)

Though I've never spoken to you... just heard about you and seen pics of you...

Now I sound creepy...

-coughs- But hey, at least I'm not hiding my identity like Mr. No Subject ;-)
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And we wonder why there aren't many women in compu
by Anonymous on Wednesday 30/Aug/2006, @17:52
Thanks to comments like these, for sure.
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Wallpaper
by AC on Wednesday 30/Aug/2006, @18:22
What's the wallpaper photo of?
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RMS vs. Linus
by petteri on Wednesday 30/Aug/2006, @23:45
Hahah love the RMS quote :) I'd choose him!
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Thanks
by annma on Thursday 31/Aug/2006, @00:17
for your work so far, you helped me a lot with the KHangMan usability study. My most embarassing moment was not to know if you were "Celeste" or "Paul" (you were not known at that time) in order to answer you!
Your work on HIG will be a great addition to KDE4 and I personnally like a lot the way you work with other people and the depth of your work.

annma
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I don't like her
by zvonsully on Thursday 31/Aug/2006, @03:03
I have a kde wish "move mouse to default button" http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=30523 . On http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114879 there are some replies of CEleste like "35% isnt a very good rating.." Well now the wish has 45 % good, but when you look at KDE/windows ratio it will be very small and still we are using KDE. I think she should be more open to comunity requests and KDE should pay a litle less atention to "usability experts" and focus on what users want!
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posted on irc
by eli on Thursday 31/Aug/2006, @05:05
08:01 <seele> lol @ KDE

Really, the only responses I see on here are "omg cute." and "omg listens to experts."

Yes she listens to experts, and she is a pretty strong authority these days due to her day job. And 'what people want' let to 10,000 conflicing configuration options in many applications, including the ones I work on for a living. There is a good reason to deny a user request, especially if it doesn't fit the product vision.
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cute? hur hur hur
by Kae Verens on Thursday 31/Aug/2006, @05:49
right - so saying someone is cute is creepy...

What if you say she's not cute? I suppose that's rude.

This is stupid. What is it with everyone and their paranoia? Obviously those that commented on her cuteness were being friendly. Why take that friendliness and then view it through suspicious eyes?

By the way; "cute" is defined as "attractive or pretty especially in a childish, youthful, or delicate way". That's not creepy.

The word "cute" would be creepy if it meant "OMG! Come within reach of me!! HurHurHur!!!"

Kae
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On topic(-ish, i.e. usability)
by Simon on Thursday 31/Aug/2006, @05:50
Well it's always nice to see these interviews to put faces to names and so on and have a bit more of an idea about the skills/qualifications etc of the people working on kde, so thanks for the interview.

Having had a brief look at Celeste's recent start menu usability paper I was pleased to see some graphs and so on of real users - I do feel sometimes that things are brought in supposedly in the name of usability but *not* backed up with hard figures like this (of course, studies might not give a true picture, but its better than one person dictating). I'd like to see this applied to for example, the decision to include text under icons in kde 4 and things like the proposed new SUSE start menu (I get the impression in the latter that a study is on-going, i hope we get to see the results).

Btw, I'm not necessarily saying any of these decisions are not good (and if they are bad not blaming Celeste for them as I don't know if she was involved) but (continue to) show us the figures and make usuability a science not an art. That way if a default doesn't suit me I know there *is* a good basis for it (and I can always change it for me, of course).
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Cute.
by R.James on Thursday 31/Aug/2006, @09:55
A little late, but just another poster that thinks she's cute. Can't say I read many of the dot articles (other than commit digests), but from reading planet I believe she's very talented at finding out what users want/expect.

Also, to those dorks who want mouse snapping to a button (or whatever the hell that annoying feature is), please consider that typically only those who want something changed will speak up. Those content / liking how something works don't tend to say much.

And this feature is available in KDE is it not? (not sure) Just enable it if you want it.
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Coolo is cuter...
by Warmy on Thursday 31/Aug/2006, @15:42
The sexiest contributor to KDE is by any means of course Coolo!
No Paul, no Faure, no Rusin will ever met his appearance.

I have a photo of him when he had a beard on my bedside table... I cannot turn my eyes away.... oh Coolo... wait, what is this woman next to his cheek???
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Oh my god
by Jakob Petsovits on Friday 01/Sep/2006, @05:23
It's not at least surprising that there you can count the women involved in KDE on one hand, given the main topic of the majority of comments in here. Yes, Celeste is cute. No, you don't need to comment on that, and you should know by yourself that it's only counter-productive in any respect.

And now go and read Val Henson's "Encourage Women in Linux" howto at http://infohost.nmt.edu/~val/howto.html

Bastards.
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