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Re: cute? hur hur hur
by josel on Thursday 31/Aug/2006, @09:07
Most of you guys are pretty creepy - here in Denmark we would call you "klam". You really should get out more and maybe get a girlfriend - maybe even get laid if you get that lucky .
It's not that important if she looks good or not - the article is not about a beauty contest so stop commenting her looks!
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Re: cute? hur hur hur
by Peter H. on Thursday 31/Aug/2006, @10:57
Just for the record, I also think she's cute, but guess what? My wife mentioned it before I did. She also thinks that Eben Moglen is cute, but in a different sort of way, and I guess I'd have to agree, although I would say a lot of that impression in my case is based on his personality (having met him him in person, I can say he's a very gemütlich kind of chap.)

I don't think it's so bad that when someone's picture is posted and their appearance strikes you as pleasant and charming, to mention it. It *is* possible to appreciate and savor someone's good looks without being sexually charged up about it. It's very sad that a lot of people minds are so narrowly programmed that they can't separate aesthetic appreciation from their hormonal urges, and therefore it's become dangerous to express any kind of positive affirmation of someone's physical appearance. For gosh sakes, people, after all, the photo's just a head shot, not a bikini layout. I dare say a lot of people like the Mona Lisa's appearance too, but I doubt people would complain about that...

I guess my impression of Celeste is that she's a person that I think I would probably find pleasant to be around, and I'm not going to be apologizing for that. :-)
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  • Re: cute? hur hur hur
    by josel on Thursday 31/Aug/2006, @14:08
    Its no excuse Peter H. Her looks is not relevant in any manner to the article. If i was her i certainly would find comments like - "Wow, shes so cute looking" - and the like as very offensive.
    I think you should apologize for claiming that she is pleasant to be around solely based on the fact that you saw her picture. Thats very rude and offensive and really sexistic - no excuse for that.
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    • Re: cute? hur hur hur
      by Anon on Thursday 31/Aug/2006, @19:16
      introducing her as an "American lass" isn't exactly focussing on her technical abilities either now is it?
      are the comments such a surprise when even the submitter felt the need to highlight gender?
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    • Re: cute? hur hur hur
      by Antonio Salazar on Thursday 31/Aug/2006, @20:35
      It's very rude and offensive and really sexistic to compliment someone's looks based on a picture? I wasn't going to weigh in at all, but this particular oh-so-overly general comment seems amusing at least and laugh-out-loud ridiculous at worst.
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      • Re: cute? hur hur hur
        by Josel on Sunday 03/Sep/2006, @08:54
        You just d'ont seem to get it. Wouldnt you hate to have your work judged by how you look? In fact most of you guys didnt even comment on her work but solely on her looks.
        It's no excuse that you probably are around 20 and "latino" - you should know better. And yes its sexistic - not one of you has ever commented on some male developers good looks.
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        • Re: cute? hur hur hur
          by AC on Sunday 03/Sep/2006, @22:01
          Sorry, but that's not what happened. Her work was not judged based on how she looks. Her work and her looks were judged independently. You'll notice that the first comment's cuteness remark is prefixed by "and btw"... It's an aside.

          If her looks were totally offtopic, why include a picture of her in the article in the first place?
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    • Re: cute? hur hur hur
      by Peter H. on Thursday 31/Aug/2006, @21:21
      You might note that my comment began by saying that I thought she was "cute", [not, I might add, "cute looking"] and ended by saying that my "impression" was that I thought I would find her pleasant to be around. There is a difference. The first term is based partially on appearance, and yes, I find her appearance pleasant. However, this is not the sum total of my 'impression'. I also find her interests and personality, as expressed in her answers to the interview questions, to be pleasant, and yes, "cute". Someone can be cute in more than just the visual sense--there's many aspects to a pleasant person beyond the arrangement of their atoms. You can perhaps even supplement "cute" with 'charming', 'affable', or even 'witty' to get a better grip on my intended meaning.

      So, as before, I will not be apologizing for that.
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    • Re: cute? hur hur hur
      by AC on Friday 01/Sep/2006, @00:07
      How can you say "Her looks is not relevant in any manner to the article."? The article _included_a_photo_of_her_. Commenting on this photo is commenting on part of the article. This is not a case of a purely technical article, and then someone 'dug up' a picture of her from elsewhere.

      If you publish an article about yourself to the world, and you choose to include photos (not to mention setting a casual tone with a section for "personal questions"), then you are the one who has opened the discussion to your appearance.

      People don't tend to comment on the boring and commonplace. She does stand out as attractive among the photos of KDE developers. It's really no different than if, say, one of the male KDE developers had blue hair, and someone said "Nice hair."

      Just take it as a friendly comment directed at her and move on with your life. I'm sure she can handle being called cute. She's probably heard it a lot. She doesn't need a bunch of guys riding to her rescue on the dot. Having her play the damsel in distress in your imagination is far more sexist than the original comment ever was.
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