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Re: our laptop
by Johann Ollivier Lapeyre on Tuesday 17/Oct/2006, @07:44
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s/England/Great Britain
Sorry, i know this is not the same culture, separate parlement, the conflict history against england (and separate Rudby or football team...). But i fear the airport policy will be the same (laptop in the compartment of the plane). But maybe i'm wrong
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Re: our laptop
by Jose on Tuesday 17/Oct/2006, @08:20
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Johann,
I have been flying from Edinburgh for the last 2 weeks ( Copenhagen, Amsterdam and Budapest), and can assure you there is no problems with Laptops, the restrictions were lifted like a month ago...
JC
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Re: our laptop
by Alistair John Strachan on Tuesday 17/Oct/2006, @11:30
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Unless you're a real ale drinker the beer offerings aren't very impressive, the UK has a culture of cheap, imported lagers.
That said, there's a lot of special pubs you can get bizarre things on tap.
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Re: our laptop
by Apollo Creed on Thursday 19/Oct/2006, @06:38
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I was very impressed with beer in Scotland when I was there. I live in Sweden, though, which has a culture of *very* cheap lagers. ;)
Guinness is especially good in Scotland.. perhaps because it's close to the brewery in Ireland.
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Scotland is a country?!
by Hobbes on Tuesday 17/Oct/2006, @08:39
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From abroad, one sees United Kingdom as a single country led by Tony Blair. Scotland, Wales, England and Northern Ireland are just regions of it.
Well, on Wikipedia, I can read that Scotland, England, etc. are really countries... They are clearly not seen this way from abroad! For instance, the European Community includes 25 countries, not 28!
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Re: Scotland is a country?!
by Alistair John Strachan on Tuesday 17/Oct/2006, @11:31
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Technically they're nations, unified as a single country. I'm Scottish and I consider myself British foremost, but a lot of Scots have a strong sense of cultural identity and would prefer to be Scottish.
Hope this helps clarify things.
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Re: Scotland is a country?!
by John Tapsell on Tuesday 17/Oct/2006, @14:27
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Identity is strange.
I'm English but would identify myself as western, or European foremost. I suppose British second.
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Re: our laptop
by Bruce Cowan on Tuesday 17/Oct/2006, @08:50
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I live in Glasgow and I (and others) get very angry when people refer to Scotland as England. No wonder over half of Scottish people want independence!
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Not at all
by The Grum on Friday 20/Oct/2006, @02:07
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Its about the same as calling you Canadian if you are from the US (or vice versa).
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Re: our laptop
by Michael on Tuesday 17/Oct/2006, @10:29
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Strange. I live in NRW but if people thought this is in the Netherlands I would perhaps correct them but "very angry"??? Huh? You should watch your
blood pressure if such things upset you that much. In fact it _is_ a wonder why all regions want independence. This is an anachronism in an ever more interdependent world IMHO.
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Re: our laptop
by Bruce Cowan on Tuesday 17/Oct/2006, @13:12
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Alright, I get a wee bit pissed off then.
Scotland, Northern Ireland, England and Wales are all part of the United Kingdom. Saying that Glasgow is in England is wrong, but it is in the United Kingdom.
It's kind of like saying a place in Virginia is in West Virginia.
NRW isn't in the Netherlands anyway, and the Netherlands and Germany are not regions of the same country.
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Re: our laptop
by AC on Tuesday 17/Oct/2006, @15:42
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Well, you would make me angry if you think that I live in Holland.
I don't live in Holland, I live in The Netherlands. Holland is just a region in The Netherlands, like England is just one of the regions in the UK.
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Re: our laptop
by Slubs on Wednesday 18/Oct/2006, @02:34
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But why get angry? This nation thingie is so... oldfashioned at most. It's for leaders to hold their pack together, for making concepts of enemies...
You live a culture, not live within a nation.
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Re: our laptop
by AC on Wednesday 18/Oct/2006, @04:28
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Indeed, and i don't live the culture of Holland.
I'm Frisian :o)
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Re: our laptop
by Mark Hannessen on Thursday 19/Oct/2006, @05:32
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aaah, frisian, I will save you the jokes from groningen then :p (I am from there)
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Re: our laptop
by Carewolf on Wednesday 18/Oct/2006, @02:43
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Well in some languages we have made this easy by translating Holland and Netherlands to the exactly the same word: Holland ;)
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Re: our laptop
by AC on Wednesday 18/Oct/2006, @04:32
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Well, that jus makes things more complicated :o)
For example, Amsterdam is the kapital of The Netherlands, but not of Holland.
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Re: our laptop
by bluGill on Wednesday 18/Oct/2006, @11:00
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Interestingly, most people I've talked to from Holland consider Holland another name for the Netherlands. You are in the first person I've talked to who doesn't consider them the same. (Also the first from the Netherlands but not also from Holland)
Note that my sample size is far too small to draw any conclusions. Also, this topic doesn't come up too often when I meet someone from your country.
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Re: our laptop
by AC on Thursday 19/Oct/2006, @04:05
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Originally, The Netherlands is a combination of 7 states, including Holland. (that's wy it's called The NetherlandS, in stead of Netherland).
Like England, Holland is the dominant factor in The Netherlands.
Today, The Netherlands consists of 12 provinces, including North and South Holland.
Most Dutch people are pragmatic, so the say that they are from Holland, in stead of The Netherlands.
Probably because every foreigner knows about Holland, but not about The Netherlands..
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Re: our laptop
by Mark Hannessen on Thursday 19/Oct/2006, @05:29
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I am from the netherlands as well, when I am in another country I usually refer to the netherlands, but if they don't know about holland is a pretty good second candidate, amsterdam being the third best ;)
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Re: our laptop
by AC on Friday 20/Oct/2006, @04:59
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Wel, as long as they don't think that Amsterdam is a city in Germany, it's fine with me :)
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To help readers
by Hobbes on Wednesday 18/Oct/2006, @01:20
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NRW = North Rhine-Westphalia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NRW
This is the first time I see this abbreviation. Even if I visited a family there for two weeks. If anyone is coming with the abbreviation of his region...
Of course it is in Germany.
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Re: To help readers
by Michael on Friday 20/Oct/2006, @00:00
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Oh! Sorry. Was writing this in a bit of a hurry. Didnt think it could be unknown to the internet audience here who is living outside (Central) Europe. Over here this is not any regional abbreviation but very well known because
a) it is Germany's most populous federal state
b) home to one of the largest metropolitan areas in Europe next to London and Paris
c) it is nearly always referred to as NRW and not the long form, because we are all are a bit lazy, arent we?
So, sorry for making you to look this up but now you know ;)
And by the way: The wikipedia is always in interesting read! I could dive into this for ages going from page to page once I start.
Have a nice day!
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