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Re: our laptop
by AC on Tuesday 17/Oct/2006, @15:42
Well, you would make me angry if you think that I live in Holland.
I don't live in Holland, I live in The Netherlands. Holland is just a region in The Netherlands, like England is just one of the regions in the UK.
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Re: our laptop
by Slubs on Wednesday 18/Oct/2006, @02:34
But why get angry? This nation thingie is so... oldfashioned at most. It's for leaders to hold their pack together, for making concepts of enemies...
You live a culture, not live within a nation.
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  • Re: our laptop
    by AC on Wednesday 18/Oct/2006, @04:28
    Indeed, and i don't live the culture of Holland.
    I'm Frisian :o)
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      by Mark Hannessen on Thursday 19/Oct/2006, @05:32
      aaah, frisian, I will save you the jokes from groningen then :p (I am from there)
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Re: our laptop
by Carewolf on Wednesday 18/Oct/2006, @02:43
Well in some languages we have made this easy by translating Holland and Netherlands to the exactly the same word: Holland ;)
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  • Re: our laptop
    by AC on Wednesday 18/Oct/2006, @04:32
    Well, that jus makes things more complicated :o)

    For example, Amsterdam is the kapital of The Netherlands, but not of Holland.
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Re: our laptop
by bluGill on Wednesday 18/Oct/2006, @11:00
Interestingly, most people I've talked to from Holland consider Holland another name for the Netherlands. You are in the first person I've talked to who doesn't consider them the same. (Also the first from the Netherlands but not also from Holland)

Note that my sample size is far too small to draw any conclusions. Also, this topic doesn't come up too often when I meet someone from your country.
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  • Re: our laptop
    by AC on Thursday 19/Oct/2006, @04:05
    Originally, The Netherlands is a combination of 7 states, including Holland. (that's wy it's called The NetherlandS, in stead of Netherland).
    Like England, Holland is the dominant factor in The Netherlands.

    Today, The Netherlands consists of 12 provinces, including North and South Holland.

    Most Dutch people are pragmatic, so the say that they are from Holland, in stead of The Netherlands.
    Probably because every foreigner knows about Holland, but not about The Netherlands..
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    • Re: our laptop
      by Mark Hannessen on Thursday 19/Oct/2006, @05:29
      I am from the netherlands as well, when I am in another country I usually refer to the netherlands, but if they don't know about holland is a pretty good second candidate, amsterdam being the third best ;)
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      • Re: our laptop
        by AC on Friday 20/Oct/2006, @04:59
        Wel, as long as they don't think that Amsterdam is a city in Germany, it's fine with me :)
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