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  Kubuntu 6.10 Released
KDE in Linux Distributions Posted by imbrandon on Thursday 26/Oct/2006, @08:29
from the the-eft-has-left-home dept.
Kubuntu 6.10, codenamed Edgy Eft, is hot on the download mirrors, this release is based on the brand new KDE 3.5.5. For all your photo needs the award winning digiKam is now installed by default and renowned artwork by the beloved Oxygen artist Ken Wimer shines all over. On top of this Kubuntu makes the perfect platform for KDE 4 development and porting KDE 3 applications with all the KDE 4 development libraries available along with Qt 4.2.


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K-Menu
by Max on Thursday 26/Oct/2006, @10:15
What have they done with the K-Menu?
(http://kubuntu.org/images/edgydesktop.png )

-Where are the "most often used applications" (should be on top of "all applications") (This one is very useful!)
-Where is the incremental search bar? (This one is useful!)

Have they fixed Konqueror filemanager?

Selecting (in Icon mode) file_003.jpg, pressing shift, and selecting e.g. file_023.jpg does not select all files between file_003.jpg and file_023.jpg but only those inside the rectangle defined by file_003.jpg and file_023.jpg.
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Kudos!
by Mark Kretschmann on Thursday 26/Oct/2006, @12:29
I've been using Kubuntu Edgy for about a week, and I can say it's an impressive work. Very smooth distro :)

I did not like the Dapper release much, but this one feels a lot more polished. Thanks to Riddell, Imbrandon, Hobbsee, and all the others!
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couple of gripes
by borker on Thursday 26/Oct/2006, @14:39
There are two main complaints I have with edgy (I had to switch a while ago thanks to the intel/jmicron sata issue that prevented me sticking with dapper)

1. The system settings applet is missing some (IMHO) important controls from kcontrol. The main one for me is the 'launch feedback' control. The bouncy icon setting drives me nuts so it's litteraly the first thing i change on a fresh install. It's not in SS so you have to run kcontrol from console to fix that. I have nothing against distros reorganizing things to test usability ideas etc, but it really bugs me when that includes dropping functionality coghGNOMEcough to 'improve' usability

2. The hiding of everything except /media and /home in the file dialog is a realy big issue for me. I went to add a mount point for my file server through the GUI and whoops no /mnt even though I'm in the 'advanced' tab of SS and have given the admin password. OK update fstab by hand. Then I go to point Amarok at my newly mounted NFS share, where my music lib is. No /mnt in the file dialog and no inclination to figure out how Amarok's config files work to add that by hand... so off to google and kubuntu forums I go (after first going through SS for 1/2 an hour trying to find a way to override this behaviour) and eventually find that there is something called a .hidden file I can edit to get my file system back. Not exactly an intuitive friendly interface. If they want this (very dubious IMHO) improvement then at least make it overridable in some easy to find way instead of costing experienced users (still the bulk of the userbase) a bunch of time looking to get back functionality we've had for years.

</end rant>

Otherwise, nice graphics improve, supports jmicron properly, starts up REALLY quick, automatix gets you your deliciously evil codecs etc all sorted out (happy halloween... how does one dress up as as the DMCA?) and so far, so stable even through the tail end of the beta stage and using fairly 'cutting edge' hardware.
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Fedora Core 6 released too
by Kevin Kofler on Thursday 26/Oct/2006, @15:21
Hey, why is this newsworthy and FC6 is not? Fedora also includes KDE! Fedora Core 6 has been released with KDE 3.5.4, but 3.5.5 is being prepared for FC5 and FC6 updates, so we Fedora users will have it soon too. (And unlike Kubuntu, we actually get the new versions as updates, 3.5.5 is going even to FC5.)
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Still buggy
by MZM on Thursday 26/Oct/2006, @23:53
I'll been using Edgy for some time - now it's far better than month a go, but still far far away from Dappers stability.
Xorg i810 drivers for i855gm still are broken. Have to wait for Edgy+1;
Right click in Konqueror causes occasional segfaults (don't like subversion desktop entry) (this one really sucks, as it comes up in most inappropriate times, and, yes, I have filled bug in that annoying bugtracker (launchpad));
And there is no KOffice 1.6.
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Not spectacular
by Rick on Friday 27/Oct/2006, @01:32
I guess it is okay...

My complaints:

1) The crippled Konqueror profiles. Yes, there are instructions on how to restore the default profiles, but each time the kdebase package is updated the crippled ones reappear. And this breaks things like the "Home" icon in Kicker which actually points to the filemanagement Konqueror profile.

2) The power management system, which is a clone of a broken GNOME hack which delegated power management to a tray applet just because the original programmer wanted to use the gconf system for storing the configuration and didn't know how to access that data from a system daemon.

I did my best to get rid of this system, but the "Suspend" and "Hibernate" buttons are still there in the logout dialog. Of course they crash the system if clicked, even though suspending my machine works using /etc/acpi/sleep.sh.

3) Scribus needs to be started like this; "LANG=[C/xx_XX] scribus[-ng]" or it only allows you to use size 0.5 fonts.
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native support for klik
by djouallah mimoune on Friday 27/Oct/2006, @03:10
as a happy kubuntu dapper user - dual boot as my work planning software still don't work on Wine- I think if you don't have an internet access; it will be diffucult to upgrade software
as in thild world countries; net connexion is not granted; imagine that last time tu upgrade amarok ,I go the cybercafe then for home to unstall all those deb for six times it says some libs lack there and there.

I have just a secret dream; just grap one file - like firefox2- go home and instal it; it is really sad that windows people can do that since 1982.

regards
mimoune
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Adept problems after upgrade!
by David on Friday 27/Oct/2006, @06:44
I upgraded to Edgy from Dapper following these instructions:

Users of Kubuntu 6.06 LTS can upgrade to 6.10 over the internet by following these instructions:

* NOTE: This procedure upgrades your system over the Internet, which requires a large download of several hundred megabytes.
* In Konqueror go to /etc/apt, right click on sources.list and choose Actions -> Edit as Root
* Change all instances of dapper to edgy
* Launch a console with KMenu -> System -> Konsole
* In the console run: sudo apt-get update
* In the console run: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and follow the prompts to upgrade
* In the console run: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop python-qt3 python-kde3 ubuntu-minimal and follow the prompts to install
* Reboot your computer

But after the reboot I have 34 Packages pending for installation (mostly python stuff) but it won't do anything if I try to upgrade either in konsole (apt-get) or via adept... does anybody else have this problem?
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bug ridden release
by asdf on Friday 27/Oct/2006, @23:08
I love Kubuntu, and have been using it since Breezy Badger, but I have to say that Edgy is the buggiest release so far. The problems I've notice so far...

_ system settings is missing configuration options.
_ i tried to access a file in /var with kate, but once I reached the root dir, the only directories I could see was /home and /media.
_ tty1 .. tty6 are corrupted and unusable.
_ X crashes occasionally while surfing the web, darn i810 drivers
_ trying to turn on drop shadows via system settings locked up the kde startup sequence. it was a bit of a chore trying to turn them off without being able to get into kde again.
_ fonts look awful

... and I've only been using Edgy for one day!

Now this being said, I have confidence that Kubuntu can turn it around. Also the roughness of this release wasn't a complete surprise, after all this was supposed to be a bleeding edge release.
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positivity
by cies breijs on Saturday 28/Oct/2006, @04:21
(i must admit this post if driven a bit by zacks last blog post)

please people,

most of the previous posts are about annoyances, etc. kubuntu is driven by a team of motivated volunteers: you probably did not pay anything for this marvellous product!

instead of paying for your software the free-software movement basically ask you to do either of the following 3 things:
1. use it, be happy and show gratitude
2. help to make it better
3. don't use it

so, if you don't like it, and your not happy, there is only 2 options left: (1) help or (2) don't use it. (note: these options do not include: "complain")

i feel that people are showing even more negativity here than on forums about paid software. why?

the free-software movement is so open and friendly, you can easily join the forums, mailinglists, wiki's, irc-channels and starthelping out in one way or another... THIS IS HOW ALL THIS FREESOFTWARE GOT TO YOU IN THE FIRST PLACE! PEOPLE HELPED OUT, FIXED, EXTENDED, AND TOOK RESPONSIBILITY.

so if you're just ventilating your compaints, you're WRONG: you can help constructively though.

cies breijs.


p.s.: these 3 'options' i talked about, i made them up myself.
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Great Release
by Phil on Saturday 28/Oct/2006, @08:41
I've been running Edgy for about 10 days. This has been the most
delightful upgrade in many years. Not since Xfree86 itself was
added 12 years ago has an upgrade been so fun.

All the CPU performance stuff is finally in and working, and the
overall performance is dramatically better. On my T60p Thinkpad,
Open Office, for example, is finally fast enough to use, no longer
scrambling key-stroke order, and fast enough to use presentation
animations.

Gnome based apps, like Eclipse 3.3, finally get printing support,
very long overdue.

Lots of bugs, but they said this would be edgy... I've found
myself w/ 2 sources.list under /etc/apt and symlink to the which
ever repository set makes sense. Edgy repository mostly, but I
have had to point back at the dapper repositories in order
to get working versions of some apps, like squid, which are
otherwise dead-on-arrival.

Mark Shuttleworth and his team deserve a congradulations, they're
doing great, and often thankless, work.

Phil
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kde4 development platform
by Anders on Sunday 29/Oct/2006, @00:33
that would be nice, but how on earth do i install it? All that happens when I attempt to
*aptitude install kde4base-dev*
is that it complains about unsolvable dependencides and gives in: http://paste.debian.net/15759
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