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K-Menu
by Max on Thursday 26/Oct/2006, @10:15

What have they done with the K-Menu?
(http://kubuntu.org/images/edgydesktop.png )

-Where are the "most often used applications" (should be on top of "all applications") (This one is very useful!)
-Where is the incremental search bar? (This one is useful!)

Have they fixed Konqueror filemanager?

Selecting (in Icon mode) file_003.jpg, pressing shift, and selecting e.g. file_023.jpg does not select all files between file_003.jpg and file_023.jpg but only those inside the rectangle defined by file_003.jpg and file_023.jpg.

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Re: K-Menu
by Thiago Macieira on Thursday 26/Oct/2006, @10:32

> -Where are the "most often used applications" (should be on top of "all
> applications")
The "Most Often Used Applications" part of the menu only appears once you have used at least one application. If the screenshot is of a fresh install, no applications will show up there.

> -Where is the incremental search bar?
There is no such thing in KDE 3.5.5.

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Re: K-Menu
by Simon Edwards on Thursday 26/Oct/2006, @10:34

"Recently used apps" can be turned. There was an incremental search bar???

Thanks go out to the great people on the Kubuntu team. It's been a pleasure to work with you guys (and gals). :-)

--
Simon

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Re: K-Menu
by Ian Monroe on Thursday 26/Oct/2006, @10:48

I like how tight and small that menu is. :)

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Re: K-Menu
by Corbin on Thursday 26/Oct/2006, @11:10

"Where is the incremental search bar? (This one is useful!)"

Thats never been in the official KDE, the incremental search bar is provided by a patch developed by SuSE.

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Re: K-Menu
by Max on Thursday 26/Oct/2006, @12:26

Why is it still missing in official KDE 3.5.5? It is widely deployed and tested and a it improves usability of the K-Menu.

Or will KDE 3.5.6 feature Suse's new Kickoff Menu?

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Re: K-Menu
by Daniel Molkentin on Thursday 26/Oct/2006, @12:56

Because it's debatable if the search bar really such a great improvement and couldn't be done better. Plus it's a fairly big change, so it has to be tested very thoroughly (also usability wise) to go in. As for Kickoff, it's not debateable for KDE 3.5.

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Re: K-Menu
by Max on Friday 27/Oct/2006, @03:09

> Because it's debatable if the search bar really such a great improvement

You have installed a new application. What do you do? Search all of your K-menu hierarchie? Is Google Picasa under Graphics/editor or Graphics/viewer or Graphics/photography or additional programs or...?

KDE does not support highlighting of newly installed program entries (as WinXP does). So a search bar is the only way to quickly find a random program.

> Plus it's a fairly big change, so it has to be tested very thoroughly (also
> usability wise) to go in.

If it's released with OpenSuse than it's tested and used by a wider audience than any other developer-only feature.

Look at Gnome, they are steadily improving. Keeping KDE always on the level of KDE 3.3 or 3.0 does not make things better. The K-menu was nice at KDE 3.4 times but now there are better alternatives. Waiting till everyone has switched to Gnome and then releasing KDE 4.0 won't make many people happy.

> As for Kickoff, it's not debateable for KDE 3.5.

KDE development seems to become more and more drooping. Where is all the innovation gone? If a new feature (like Kickoff) is better than the old one in 96% of all cases and slightly worse in the remaining 4% than it's "not debateable" to ship.

What about 3.5.6 beta? If Users don't like the new features, one can always revert (or improve!!!) some features. Amarok did the same as the users did not like the new layout.

KDE could be so much better by only taking the low hanging fruits.

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Re: K-Menu
by Joergen Ramskov on Friday 27/Oct/2006, @03:48

Eh? Have you followed the KDE project at all for the last year? Have you completely missed the fact that the developers are working hard on KDE4 which looks like it will bring an insane amount of cool new stuff to KDE?

It sure sounds like it...

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Re: K-Menu
by terracotta on Friday 27/Oct/2006, @05:05

Well, it's probably just under graphics. I personally love that their menu is uncluttered and simple. Some subcategories and that's it, not subcategories under subcategories. Kubuntu is the first distribution I met with a nice looking kde with not too many programs and not too many menus.

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Re: K-Menu
by JaKi on Sunday 05/Nov/2006, @12:01

Well, I personally don't like crippled and tiny menus like kbfx and kickoff. I need a menu with subcategories in subcategories so I can sort the entries as much as possible and am able to see the subcategories and the entries together. In kbfx you have to scroll a lot which is just horrible for me (not to mention its super tiny size), I need to have everything visible. And in kickoff (which imho looks much more usable than kbfx) you also have to scroll and you cannot look at the categories and the entries at the same time because the entries panel seems to slide of the categories (that's like the icon view mode in kcontrol, I'm feeling very uncomfortable with it). I hope KDE 4 will have a "classic" mode with the current kmenu style (which I like a lot) and a "normal" icon-sized button.

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Re: K-Menu
by Robert Knight on Friday 27/Oct/2006, @12:57

KDE 3.x is currently in a "chilly" status. ie. It there isn't a complete feature freeze in effect, but there are strict conditions under which new features can be added to the KDE 3.5.x series.

The reason being that most exciting stuff is happening in the KDE 4 world.

Having said that, distributions are free to make their own modifications to the KDE 3.x series which others can then use. Suse 10.2 users will see a replacement for the K menu before KDE 4, and hopefully a few other distributions might make use of it as well.

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Re: K-Menu
by AC on Saturday 28/Oct/2006, @02:56

And besides k-menu and kickoff, there is also kbfx as menu replacement.

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Re: K-Menu
by superstoned on Saturday 28/Oct/2006, @06:25

and tasty menu... ;-)

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Re: K-Menu
by btag on Sunday 17/Jun/2007, @17:51

After using SuSE for a while, I found this feature to be very useful ever since I switched to Debian I miss this feature the most so...

Is it possible to apply this patch to other distros like Debian?

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