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Re: i maybe missed something
by Blargh... on Friday 27/Oct/2006, @09:31
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| Apparently, there is some Fedora fan that whined in the previous story that Kubuntu has announcements on dot.kde.org but not Fedora. The site admins, being nice, have indulged him. Mind, I'm all for being nice and all, but doesn't Fedora default to GNOME? What's next, an announcement for every distro under the sun that happens to have some KDE stuff somewhere in its package repository? |
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Re: i maybe missed something
by Bruno Patini Furtado on Friday 27/Oct/2006, @09:39
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I think the post is relevant because of the popularity Fedora has. But indeed, Fedora's KDE has not the same treatment of GNOME, in fact, KDE seems to have no polishing at all at Fedora.
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Re: i maybe missed something
by Blargh... on Friday 27/Oct/2006, @09:49
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That's pretty much my point. Fedora is not *quite* the most popular distro out there, and if you count the market share of people who actually use KDE under Fedora, that number drops much, much lower still. And I thought this site was for KDE news, not a duplicate of distrowatch.
If this was about pressuring Fedora into stopping to treat KDE like a second-class citizen, though, it'd be a different thing. Are the Fedora-using people here willing to have a go at it?
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Re: i maybe missed something
by OMG on Monday 06/Nov/2006, @00:36
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Fedora is a community run distro. It is not controlled by evil mind-flayers from RH.
If there is something you dont like about the KDE packages, its up to you fix them, or at least just quietly use your distro of choice without spreading FUD.
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Re: i maybe missed something
by Greg M on Friday 27/Oct/2006, @11:46
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The lack of polishing is exactly why I like KDE on Fedora. You get KDE, not FOO distro's version of KDE.
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Re: i maybe missed something
by JC on Saturday 28/Oct/2006, @13:00
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This is why I'm not using fedora. I like and want to use Linux. Not fedora.
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Re: i maybe missed something
by Blargh... on Friday 27/Oct/2006, @09:41
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Hmm, I think that came out as more aggressive than I intended it. Sorry, guys. I guess I'm a little miffed. I thought this site was intended for KDE news; I really can't see why generic distro announcements should be posted here, especially distros with a marked focus on other environments than KDE. It's cool that the Fedora guys are doing a good job with generic optimizations and such; but there are a lot of distros that are doing cool things and I'd rather not have this site turn into a sounding board for their respective fans. :/
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Re: i maybe missed something
by Blargh... on Friday 27/Oct/2006, @10:01
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Ah, there, here's a much better wording of just what I meant:
http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2486
I knew there had to be someone out there with the ability to express my feelings in better terms than I do. :)
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Re: i maybe missed something
by Kevin Kofler on Friday 27/Oct/2006, @09:44
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You can install FC6 with only KDE (uncheck GNOME, check KDE, bingo!).
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Re: i maybe missed something
by Blargh... on Friday 27/Oct/2006, @09:55
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I know, and I never said you can't. Please kindly don't deform what I said. Thing is, you can remove GNOME and install KDE in about 95% of the distros out there. And many of them are doing a better job of packaging KDE than Fedora does, for that matter. Shouldn't THOSE get to announce their releases here, rather than one whose sub-par treatment of KDE has probably caused more harm to its image than not?
(BTW: I know what you're thinking, and no, the distro I currently use isn't one of those. I use Gentoo, and its packaging of KDE is approximative at best. And I have no desire to see Gentoo announcements appear on this site.)
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Re: i maybe missed something
by Bruno Patini Furtado on Friday 27/Oct/2006, @10:05
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If you really like KDE, you won't use Fedora (if you have the choice). :)
So many other distros do a much better job with it, it would have no point to use Fedora if the only reason is to use KDE.
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Re: i maybe missed something
by Kevin Kofler on Friday 27/Oct/2006, @10:36
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I'm running KDE on Fedora since FC1, and did before on RHL. And I know I'm not the only one. Heck, the University of Vienna's Mathematics department has all their computers on Red Hat family distros (it used to be RHL, then Fedora, now it's the RHEL-derived Scientific Linux) with KDE as default. So I fail to see how this is not a viable option.
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Re: i maybe missed something
by Carsten Niehaus on Friday 27/Oct/2006, @11:40
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I guess you mean: https://www.scientificlinux.org/
That sounds indeed *really* cool (I am a chemist, so that is what *I* want on many computer ;-) To quote the german Wikipedia:
"Scientific Linux ist eine Linux-Distribution, die auf der Linux-Distribution Red Hat Enterprise Linux der Firma Red Hat aufbaut, und zu dieser kompatibel ist. Die Distribution wird vor allen Dingen von Entwicklern am Fermilab und am CERN weiterentwickelt."
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Re: i maybe missed something
by NoNoFedora on Tuesday 31/Oct/2006, @16:41
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I dropped RedHat/Fedora since Core 1 for its "gnomocentrizm". And for the same reason news about distros like these should not appear on the KDE news site.
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Re: i maybe missed something
by OMG on Monday 06/Nov/2006, @00:33
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Where do you classify distros that dont default to anything?
Really, do try to grow up.
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