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by Hobbes on Monday 30/Oct/2006, @02:21

Why this new software? Is there anything wrong with KMail?! There is no explanation on Mailody website, except maybe the sentence "Supports Tabbed email reading" at the bottom.

Will it support IMAP only? I think this would be a mistake to support only one protocol.

Good luck anyway!

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Re: Mailody
by fred on Monday 30/Oct/2006, @02:55

You can read this: http://www.omat.nl/drupal/?q=node/98 (the author's blog). And also some interesting articles in his blog regarding this new email client ;)

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Re: Mailody
by AC on Monday 30/Oct/2006, @03:41

>>Is there anything wrong with KMail?!

Why should the creation of Mailody mean that there is anything wrong with kmail?

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Re: Mailody
by Hobbes on Monday 30/Oct/2006, @06:07

> Why should the creation of Mailody mean that there is anything wrong with kmail?

It seems obvious to me: they are both mail clients! Whether KMail has nothing wrong and a new mail client is purposeless, whether KMail lacks features and a new client may be useful. Pure logic.

I have read his posts on his blog (thanks Fred). Mailody was started because its author missed features in KMail and he was not able to add them in KMail. It seems that KMail code was hard to understand.

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Re: Mailody
by Stephen on Monday 30/Oct/2006, @11:25

> It seems that KMail code was hard to understand.
Sadly I'd agree if that were the case.
I tried to look into fixing something a few days ago. It is horribly unorganized under the top level directory they have 414 files!
I hope for kde4 they plan on cleaning it up a bit.

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Re: Mailody
by Janne Ojaniemi on Monday 30/Oct/2006, @11:56

"Why this new software?"

Because the developer had an itch he wanted to scratch. Why should the developer need to justify his activities to you?

"Is there anything wrong with KMail?!"

Maybe, maybe not. How this is relevant to Mailody is beyond me. Or are you sying that we should forbid developers from working on another apps, if there already exists a similar app? Related to this: have you already told Amarok-devels to stop working on Amarok, since we already have Juk? How about Kate/Kwrite/Kedit? Konsole/Yakuake? Kaffeine/Codeine/Kmplayer/etc.?

BTW. Shouting questions is quite rude.

"Will it support IMAP only? I think this would be a mistake to support only one protocol."

If it doesn't work the way you'd like, then don't use it. Problem solved.

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Re: Mailody
by Hobbes on Tuesday 31/Oct/2006, @05:56

I hope that KDE developers are not all that rude and irrational! I planned on working for KDE, but now I ask myself questions.

Actually, I should not ask questions, apparently. Do KDE developers think that starting a new application without any goal is a good option?!

I think that reasonable people start a new application because there is something wrong with other similar applications (or because there is simply no similar application!). They have new ideas to improve things (may it be in features, code organization, license, etc.). This (of course) applies to Mailody (see the link given by Fred). I wanted to know what was wrong with KMail (I was surprised), and Mailody author explains on his blog: essentially bad code to add the features he wants.

I hope KDE developers have enough in mind, too, in order to explain their goals! I feel afraid now!

"If it doesn't work the way you'd like, then don't use it. Problem solved."

Nice. I appreciate the advice. :)

Seriously my point is: nowadays applications tend to do a lot. Toolkits, programming languages and techniques are good enough to build complete and perennial applications. If one wants Mailody to have some future, other developers, etc. it should aim at having at least POP in addition to IMAP. Otherwise, Mailody will not spread too much and will not gain a lot of developers. And in the end, it will be abandoned when the original author stops it. So this is just an advice...

Crazy world, anyway...

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Re: Mailody
by Janne on Tuesday 31/Oct/2006, @06:40

"I hope that KDE developers are not all that rude and irrational! I planned on working for KDE, but now I ask myself questions."

I'm not a KDE-developer. Nor do I consider myself to be "irrational". All my opinions are mine and do not represent KDE in any shape or form.

"Actually, I should not ask questions, apparently."

Sure you can ask questions. But asking them in a demanding manner ("why this piece of software? Is there something wrong with kmail!?") is quite rude. Instead of shouting questions and demanding answers, why not simply ask (for example) "why not work on Kmail instead?". The tone is much nicer. Using exclamation-points ("!") in questions make it seem like you are shouting and demandind answers.

I'm not even sure what prompted this discussion. So we have a developer who started writing a new mail-client. More power to him! Sometimes (most of the time) people do what they want to do, and maybe he just wanted to write a new mailclient. He did not want to work on Kmail, he wanted to start from scratch. And there's nothing wrong with that. Something the best course of action is to start from the beginning.

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Re: Mailody
by Janne on Monday 30/Oct/2006, @11:56

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