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use of KVocTrain
by Markus on Saturday 25/Nov/2006, @01:59

For the past three years I have been trying to find support (actually a programmer) for an improvement in KVocTrain:

A vocabulary test screen which shows the results at the end of the query.

We are using the programme at our vocational school in Bad Nauheim (Germany) and the lack of this feature is not very helpful in getting more of my colleagues to use the Linux installation in our language lab.

Richard, what do you think about this extension?
How do teachers in the Canary Islands use KVocTrain?
What are their wishes for KVocTrain?

Thanks for your ideas!

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Re: use of KVocTrain
by annma on Saturday 25/Nov/2006, @03:54

Hi Marcus,

Do you have a mockup about the result screen? I am very interested in GUI ideas for such a screen. Implementation is not a problem, design is. I am interested in it for several edu applications.
About KVocTrain: did you try KWordQuiz? KvocTrain unfortunately is not maintained and the code is very old. It makes it very difficult to add new features. Peter the KWordQuiz maintainer did his best to work on KVocTrain and I did some small things as well. But what it needs is a real maintainer and defining goals fpor KVocTrain which are not KWordQuiz ones.
Cheers,
Anne-Marie

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Re: use of KVocTrain
by Markus on Saturday 25/Nov/2006, @04:22

Thanks for your interest Anne-Ma!

We are using the advanced features of KVocTrain: units, comparison forms, example sentences, conjugations. That makes using KWordQuiz difficult. (Together with a colleague I am the author of the Basic vocabulary German-English file, which you can download via the "get new vocabulary" menu item.)

I have done a design of the exam screen including ideas how to implement it (conceptwise not codewise as I haven't got a clue of programming). I'm posting my qt-designer files and my thoughts about it on the kde-edu mailing list, subject "vocabulary test screen".

I was wondering, if participating in Goggle's summer of code (too late for this year, I'm afraid) or something like a competition would be a reasonable idea to get the coding started. Is this realistic?

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Re: use of KVocTrain
by Richard Dale on Saturday 25/Nov/2006, @11:54

If KVocTrain isn't maintained, but is still regarded as useful, I would like to see if we can rewrite it in either Python or Ruby for KDE4. I think PyKDE and Korundum are perfect matches for writing edu apps, whereas C++ is over complicated and too much work.

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Re: use of KVocTrain
by Markus on Saturday 25/Nov/2006, @13:18

Richard, if it isn't maintained (you may ask Peter Hedlund) and you'll try to rewrite it, I volunteer for testing it.

This is because I regard it as very useful in my English classes - and so do my pupils (the ones that like English as a foreign language for sure).

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Re: use of KVocTrain
by Peter Hedlund on Tuesday 16/Jan/2007, @20:06

I'm doing my best to maintain KVocTrain. I'm currently working on the port to KDE4. It includes creating a KEduVocDocument library in libkdeedu that is shared by several edu apps. The port also includes a switch to a model/view interface for the vocabulary table (applies also to KWordQuiz). The code base is indeed pretty complex and a non-standard user interface is used in some places that needs to be changed.

Any help with this work is of course greatly appreciated. People gladly ask for new features to the program, but are there maybe also some things that might be removed? As an example, KVocTrain has some intricate code for copying and pasting different formats of delimited text. Isn't a spreadsheet application more suitable for that type of thing?

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