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Looks like the important Apps are ported first
by chri on Tuesday 02/Jan/2007, @13:31
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<just fun>
Why browse and tag your Files when you can play a nice round mahjong :)
Its already usable by secretaries now :) And they will be more productive !
Lets add more games :) kate/konqueror/okular/plasma , who needs this :>>
</just fun>
seriously : The ksysguard and mahjong look awsome , alt-f2 and atomic need much more work/love :)
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Video Shots ?
by chri on Tuesday 02/Jan/2007, @13:34
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as kde gets more and more animations - What about Video-Shots , instead of Screenshots? Would be a nice addition for KSnapshot !
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Mahjong
by Caesar Tjalbo on Tuesday 02/Jan/2007, @14:06
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Oh wow, the new KMahJongg looks almost as good as the Gnome version....
I am excited about KDE 4 though!
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Looks good, but...
by Carlo on Tuesday 02/Jan/2007, @14:11
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...the question is: Does it render quickly enough, not to flicker, when the system is under load and you're resizing the window (without keeping a (in "advance" filled) cache, eating a large amount of memory)? Or do the minimal GPU requirements match Vista?
Hopefully there's at least a compatibility mode for people who don't want exchange a fast working system for 'bells and whistles' or feel forced to buy new hardware (or to choose another desktop)...
The minicli above looks much better.
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krunner and options
by apokryphos on Tuesday 02/Jan/2007, @14:12
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I'm not convinced krunner really needs any options. The current run command dialog has:
(i) run as a different user;
(ii) run as root.
(iii) run in terminal
(iv) run with different priority
(v) run with realtime scheduling
(i) is practically never done, and (ii) should never have to be. Any app that requires root privs should launch with them. (iii) obviously doesn't need to be there; if you want it to run in the terminal, then run it in one. (iv) and (v) are [rarely-used] power-user features and I don't think they should be there.
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"should" by
crc on Tuesday 02/Jan/2007, @14:39
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Re: krunner and options by
otherAC on Tuesday 02/Jan/2007, @15:22
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Re: Yeah, scrap it all! by
Phase II on Tuesday 02/Jan/2007, @15:56
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Options are good! by
Hobbes on Tuesday 02/Jan/2007, @16:32
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Re: krunner and options by
pascal on Tuesday 02/Jan/2007, @17:56
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Re: krunner and options by
Felix on Wednesday 03/Jan/2007, @06:39
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Re: krunner and options by
Tyson on Wednesday 03/Jan/2007, @11:35
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Re: krunner and options by
Golodh on Wednesday 03/Jan/2007, @15:56
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Re: krunner and options by
Ben Morris on Friday 05/Jan/2007, @03:44
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Thanks!
by Joergen Ramskov on Tuesday 02/Jan/2007, @14:37
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That was a neat little article - looking forward to the next!
How much will actually be rendered with SVG? yeah, I know that is probably unknown, but what is the goal then? :)
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Excited
by Lans on Tuesday 02/Jan/2007, @15:19
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Of these four, I think KMahjongg has improved the most and looks most mature.
Ksysguard looks nice, but I really dislike the background.
KAtomic needs, as somebody already said, some work (and love). I think it is the black blocks (walls) that look a little bit.. too much?
And Krunner, this one was new to me. Looks pretty cool, kind of reminds me of Katapult (which is great). I wonder if it works the similar way?
Well, to sum everything up, it looks promising. Yes, there are many things to be improved, and I look forward to see the result.
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KMahjongg
by The guy who made Traditional on Tuesday 02/Jan/2007, @18:42
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Yeah, those SVGs look hella nice, but to fair you should compare them with the "Traditional" tileset in KMahjongg (with the "Wood" background, naturally). If I had my druthers, I would have made it the default years ago. It was hard enough getting the damn thing accepted in the first place, though. :-)
I guess it's time to start working on an SVG version now... :-P
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Looks exciting
by MM on Tuesday 02/Jan/2007, @23:32
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But what about the performance of especially ksysguard (e.g. when the system is already swapping and one needs to kill a process)?
However, it looks really great.
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Really like the use of SVG!
by BJ on Wednesday 03/Jan/2007, @00:52
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Really like the use of SVG!
About the new System Guard, the graphs now have titles in
the graph itself as well as above it. Also the 'Load Average' title
is missing its first letter. I know this is probably a minor issue
but I see this kind of annoyance regularly in graphical user interfaces,
KDE is no exception.
What would also be nice for the System Guard IMHO would be an x-axis
scale, so you get an impression of how long the history is you are
looking at.
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Thanks !
by Felix on Wednesday 03/Jan/2007, @03:22
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Thanks for this great summery ! I really missed easy to get informations about the progress of kde4.
Greetings
Felix
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Not impressed
by Charles on Wednesday 03/Jan/2007, @12:53
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I prefer the original KMahjongg screenshots. Also, is KDE 4 going to look as ugly as KDE 3.5.5? I'd like something much much better, as good looking as Windows Vista is possible.
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Will be possible to copy-paste the SVG?
by dis on Wednesday 03/Jan/2007, @15:10
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Hi, the new ksysguard looks really great. Will be possible to copy the current graphic and paste it as SVG on a text editor, or an SVG editor as Inkscape? That will be a nice feature (and I guess similar feature would be also nice in other programs).
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what theme are you using?
by joe on Wednesday 03/Jan/2007, @20:54
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those are very pretty screenshots, I've compiled from svn a couple of weeks ago and it doesn't look like that. what did you add?
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redundancy in ksysguard
by MamiyaOtaru on Thursday 04/Jan/2007, @00:24
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What's with the redundancy in ksysguard? Specifically the bar showing current CPU usage. One can simply look at the far right of the graph to see that. What's the point in showing it twice?
See pic if this isn't clear enough:
http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=redundantwz1.png
I'd ask for an option to disable that, but for heaven's sake it should just go. It grates. A better way to do it if you simply must have the current value highlighted somehow would be something like this:
http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lessredundantut2.png
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How can I code and contribute ?
by Ankur Gupta on Thursday 04/Jan/2007, @00:37
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Can some one tell me where is the repository (svn/cvs) for KDE System Guard (KDE 4 dev series ) ... Have QT/C++/SVG skills will like to contribute ...
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Beryl/Compiz compatability?
by Dr No on Thursday 04/Jan/2007, @02:12
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Just wonder about any Beryl/Compiz compatability?
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Lol
by Guille on Thursday 04/Jan/2007, @02:23
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Gnome Rulz
this enviroment sucks
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Revolutionary?
by Axl on Thursday 04/Jan/2007, @06:23
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I thought KDE 4 was going to bring a revolutionary new approach to office computing.
But this just looks like the same windows-like desktop with neater graphics.
Anyway, is KOffice for Windows coming out anytime soon??
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svg ktuberling love please!
by Tim Middleton on Friday 05/Jan/2007, @19:32
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I just don't see how KDE4 can possibly be released without shame if someone doesn't upgrade ktuberling to SVG...
That and some sort of 3d semi-transparent treatment for kteatimer... and we'd have something very special in a desktop environment.
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KDE's new look
by anonymous on Friday 05/Jan/2007, @20:34
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I'm all for KDE taking these steps, but I honestly think that, save for the "Run" design, every single one of these screenshots is simply hideous. Mentally challenged toddlers could scribble more attractive usage graphs with crayons. Those fonts still look like ass. It's like the KDE folks are desperately shouting down a wind tunnel at Vista and Mac OS X. What are they screaming? "Wait for me! I can play too! Look at me!". Vista and Mac OS X simply cling their wine glasses together and laugh.
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KDE 3.5.5 SVG Deco
by bitwit on Saturday 06/Jan/2007, @12:21
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http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=49665
KDE 3.5.5 Windeco that loads frame and buttons from SVG files.
Based on Plastik it should be really easy to port to v4 or, at least, the functionality.
Is this even needed ? I haven't dug into Qt/KDE 4 src yet, waiting until its included with my distro, Qt 4 is, so KDE 4 shouldn't be too far behind. Life expectancy of this dist is supposed to be 2.5 years.
#B^]
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Great
by TK on Sunday 07/Jan/2007, @08:39
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I think the SVG rendering is excellent. If all the icons are moved to SVG, then the icons keep their sharpness with increased size. The same with any other graphical item on the desktop. Resizing without pixelating just makes the desktop so much more appealing. I can already see the benefit of this with SVG icons - and this is with the previous version of KDE. One icon image, not multiples for different sizes. And it scales perfectly without pixelating - and is usually smaller.
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Amazing!!!!!
by Wowser on Tuesday 09/Jan/2007, @00:48
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I am so completely blown away!!! This has got to be the most unbelievable and quite simply the uttermost anticlimactic news article I have read involving KDE4 to date. Unfortunately there have been more than a few. :(
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KDE Needs To Be Faster, Faster, Faster!
by Maxei DeVraie on Thursday 11/Jan/2007, @22:50
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Right now I see that the efforts of KDE developers are again making a mistake by concentrating efforts in the Eye Candy Factor. But there are issues much more important: One is improvement of handling and distributing memory resources. KDE is getting fatter and fatter like a vulgar pig named VISTA. Should I remind that Linux is notable for its (so far) ability to run in old, discontinued hardware? The competitor Microsoft Vista is already entangled in its own trap, being able to run only in top, expensive new hardware.
C'mon KDE guys, Don't follow the steps of Microsoft as your model to imitate or emulate. Linux and of course KDE are not Windows! Please keep doing the right thing. Follow your common sense. I know you have. You should realize that KDE, as a faster GUI will have much more acceptance. If you have to choose between beauty and functionality.... I'm sure u're understanding now.
Maxei DeVrai
SLED 10-KDE 3.5 running in SOYO SY-k7VTA-B, cpu 1.1GHz, 896 MB SDRAM pc133, Radeon and 3D enabled!
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Suggestion concerning Ksysguard
by J on Wednesday 07/Feb/2007, @12:54
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The KDE System Guard background needs to be lighter. Also loose the line or whatever there, it's useless and makes the graph less readable.
I'm generally against using graphics everywhere, they should be used if it makes the application in question easier to use, but not for prettiness sake.
Also, try to make KDE4 not Vista-slow. Just tested Vista today and it was eating around 20% CPU idle on a 1200$ laptop.
Vector graphics are pretty and powerful but eat a lot of cpu, at least before dedicated vector GPUs appear, and thus should be used sparingly.
Also, when using SVG, remember to optimize! There should be a function in every respectable vector graphics package to do that. Better yet, design effective(as in few paths and few points) graphics from the ground up.
Sorry to sound so critical, it's just that I run KDE and want it to be as good as possible.
But, good work and carry on!
ps. If there is a particular area that needs improving graphics-wise, I'm a fairly experienced graphic designer trying to learn SVG
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Increased use of memory with SVG?
by Daniel Aleksandersen on Tuesday 13/Feb/2007, @09:51
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Correct me if I am wrong, but will not using SVG mean increased use of memory?
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Amazing
by Ali on Monday 05/Mar/2007, @03:33
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It is really amazing this KDE 4 ! I am impressed with new look ! It is great!
Thanks KDE team!
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