faq  flatforty  contribute  subscribe  configure  search  rdf  main  parent	Looking forward to it... by m_abs on Monday 08/Jan/2007, @13:45 I'm really looking forward to the next KDE and associated programs. And I'm really glad to see these articles about the progress. With KOffice my biggest concern is ODF compatiblility not so much the UI, just read an articlen in Linux Magazine about it and the compliance in the different tested office suites were somewhat depressing (they did the test on an older version 1.5, so most have improved since). Compatiblility between OOo and MS Words .doc, seemed better then between OOo and other ODF-enabled software, which is sad since ODF is an actual standard and .doc isn't.	Related Links  ·   Articles on KDE Public Relations and Marketing  ·   Also by m_abs  ·   Contact author Thread Threshold: 10 comments 20 comments 30 comments 40 comments 50 comments 60 comments 70 comments 80 comments 90 comments 100 comments 110 comments 120 comments 130 comments 140 comments 150 comments 160 comments 170 comments 180 comments 190 comments 200 comments 300 comments 400 comments 500 comments 1000 comments
	The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whomever posted them. ( Reply ) Re: Looking forward to it... by Boudewijn Rempt on Monday 08/Jan/2007, @13:51 Linux Magazine was, well, less than thorough and the author didn't quite understand the issues involved. I was a bit unimpressed with the articles. Thomas has got my copy now, so I cannot look back and give definite criticisms. Still, it's clear that we're all working towards ODF support, haven't reached it fully yet. Not OpenOffice, not KOffice, nor anybody else. That said, it's encouraging to read things like:http://www.openmalaysiablog.com/2007/01/bidirectional_m.html. [ Reply To This | View ] Re: Looking forward to it... by Samba on Tuesday 09/Jan/2007, @00:33 KOffice allready is looking very nice, but I have to agree with ODF compatibility problems. I recently switched to Koffice from OO.org, but switched back, after exchanging documents turned out to be a nightmare. This is not necessarily have to be a Koffice-problem, could also be a problem of OO.org. But how can the user figure out where the problem lies and has to be reported to? Since OO.org is more used, I now use OO.org again. [ Reply To This | View ] Re: Looking forward to it... by ac on Tuesday 09/Jan/2007, @02:12 The user could check the same document in different viewers, but in the end he can't be sure which one is right. The devs have to look into the ODF spec. In some cases the incompatibility might also be caused through inaccuracy of the spec. [ Reply To This | View ] Re: ODF compatibility by Andreas Speck on Tuesday 09/Jan/2007, @02:29 I tried to reproduce our masthead, which we have in openoffice and M$Word, in KWord and in Abiword recently. It was a nightmare. The OpenOffice version is attached to this posting. In Kword, I was able to create something which at least looked similar. In Abiword I wasn't even able to create something similar. Once I got close, but then closing and reopening the file (native Abiword format) messed everything up again. Opening the odt file in another ODF compliant application is a different matter though. Try to open the attached masthead with KWord, and it will be all messed up. In Abiword it's the same. My recreation of the masthead in KWord will also not open correctly in OpenOffice, not to mention Abiword... ODF standard - that sometimes sounds more like wishful thinking. wri-masthead.odt 25KB (25942 bytes) [ Reply To This | View ] Re: ODF compatibility by Thomas Zander on Tuesday 09/Jan/2007, @03:18 Your masthead doesn't look very complex, but you did choose to use some items that are not well supported in OOo (frames). The alternative is to use an anchered image, which may take some tweaking, but will give you better results. The KWord support is not 100%, but it should be enough Anchored content in 2.0 are in design right now, but they really look like they will be awesome! [ Reply To This | View ] Re: Looking forward to it... by Thomas Zander on Tuesday 09/Jan/2007, @02:32 Even better; there is a testsuite. http://testsuite.opendocumentfellowship.org The tests are written based on the spec, not on the implementation of one application. There you can see how well or bad each app behaves in each section. (people willing to make screenshots of the tests in different versions of the applications, please report to; http://www.opendocumentfellowship.org/~testsuite/ ) Do note that ODF is pretty new; its expected to see compatibility grow over time as applications find bugs and fix them. [ Reply To This | View ] Re: Looking forward to it... by hannes hauswedell on Friday 12/Jan/2007, @18:04 i can agree 100% to the persons complaint, i use koffice on my freebsd machines and openoffice in my girlfriends laptop and interoperability is hell. i even get better results exchanging files in .doc a plain text with two pictures created in openoffice and opened in koffice is a mess! the pictures are in wrong places, the fonts are bigger in kofffice, certain pngs dont load at all... i am not saying its koffice's fault, but you really need to work with ooo on interoperability!!! [ Reply To This | View ] Re: Looking forward to it... by Simon on Tuesday 09/Jan/2007, @02:57 There's still work to be done, but already there are benefits from a common format - as KOffice has improved greatly in the recent releases I've been using it more and more on documents I created in OOo without having to think about doing a conversion first [ Reply To This | View ] Re: Looking forward to it... by matte on Wednesday 10/Jan/2007, @06:55 I'm a KDE user all-around, but still I need to use OpenOffice if I need some compatibility with the MS Office, which, sadly, is the ACTUAL standard. Sorry but this isn't the way to go, peek into OpenOffice, do what you want but at least .doc (word) and .xls (excel) document compatibility should be granted (and actually isn't )..... [ Reply To This | View ] Re: Looking forward to it... by Boudewijn Rempt on Wednesday 10/Jan/2007, @08:27 Feel free to be the umpteenth person who tries to mooch the MS file format code from OpenOffice... Unless you've tried you don't realize just how impossible a task it is. As for us, we're going for OpenDocument. Even Microsoft will soon be forced to support it. [ Reply To This | View ] Re: Looking forward to it... by AC on Wednesday 10/Jan/2007, @10:37 http://ariya.blogspot.com/2006/04/why-koffice-not-using-openofficeorgs.html [ Reply To This | View ]   The Fine Print: The previous comments are owned by whomever posted them. ( Reply )

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