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Re: Qt-Only Version?
by Rahim on Monday 08/Jan/2007, @19:25
So, on Debian, it would require kdelibs or something like that? It's just I remember when I used to use XFCE on an old computer, if I opened even something little like Kcalc, it took ages to load. But I suppose with DCOP being gone, that will help the initial overhead quite a bit?
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Re: Qt-Only Version?
by Aaron J. Seigo on Monday 08/Jan/2007, @19:51
it's not dcop, it's loading all the libs and starting necessary support daemons such as kded and what not.

you're probably not saving as much with xfce as you think if you're running kde apps in it.
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  • Re: Qt-Only Version?
    by Rahim on Monday 08/Jan/2007, @19:59
    Yes, I agree. I guess that's sort of my point, is there any way to make Koffice compile as Qt-only or something?
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    • Re: Qt-Only Version?
      by Robert Knight on Monday 08/Jan/2007, @21:10
      No, but you could try AbiWord perhaps?
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    • Re: Qt-Only Version?
      by Troy Unrau on Monday 08/Jan/2007, @21:12
      The simple answer is no.

      The long answer is due to all the functionality that KOffice pulls in from kdelibs so it doesn't have to do all that work itself. Like the file dialogs, config dialogs, toolbars, printing, auto-saving, config backend, kparts, and so forth... removing the kdelibs dependency would cause KOffice to re-implement this all in-house, so you really wouldn't be saving anything.
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      • Re: Qt-Only Version?
        by Aaron Seigo on Tuesday 09/Jan/2007, @15:46
        indeed; you'd get open office all over again at the cost of a gargantuan development effort.
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        • Re: Qt-Only Version?
          by superstoned on Wednesday 10/Jan/2007, @08:10
          and - Koffice with the KDElibs is still smaller than OO.o itself...
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Re: Qt-Only Version?
by otherAC on Monday 08/Jan/2007, @23:37
You could load kdelibs with xfce, so that you won't have the startup delay when launching a kde application.
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Re: Qt-Only Version?
by Diederik van der Boor on Tuesday 09/Jan/2007, @01:09
XFCE uses less memory when you start a clean session. With more apps open, XFCE can use more memory because every application (AbiWord, OpenOffice, Firefix) has it's own set of libraries. At some point KDE wins here. See the following: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html

For starting KDE applications outside KDE, also try:
http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Performance%20Tips#_Faster_startup_of_KDE_applications_outside_of_KDE
http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Performance%20Tips#_Directory_prescanning_in_KDM
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