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by shamaz on Wednesday 14/Feb/2007, @04:44

OK since I'm making the 1st comment, I just want to tell everybody this :
Please don't start another discussion like "Ligature vs Okular", or "which viewer SHOULD be default ?". This type of discussion already happened many times (on mailing lists, commit-digest, etc.), and I don't think they helped.
Please respect the work done on both of these projects. They provide it to you for FREE, and you are FREE to use it or not.
This is what oss is about.

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Re: oh no...
by shamaz on Wednesday 14/Feb/2007, @04:46

and btw, thank you Troy for the great article :)

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Correct, 1+1 isn't 2 [was Re: oh no...]
by Diederik van der Boor on Wednesday 14/Feb/2007, @05:13

I think it's important to understand that 1 + 1 isn't 2 here. If you combine the developers working on Ligature and Okular you won't end up with one project that's twice as productive.

The same can be said about KDE and GNOME. Combining these reduces the productivity as each set of developers have a different vision. Two parallel projects keep each other motivated to become the best one.

It also creates playground to implement new features. Sometimes a project won't accept an idea because it's to controversial. When the developer can implement it in the other project, get successful with it, the first project may copy the feature.

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Re: Correct, 1+1 isn't 2 [was Re: oh no...]
by matt on Friday 16/Feb/2007, @22:46

Eh, maybe, but we're talking about document viewers here, not video editors or desktop environments.

Creating two separate applications to simply read the same document files is basically redundant. I don't see what kind of "controversial features" can come out of a program so simple, short of allowing a user to change a background color or something.

Stuff like this is why people say KDE is so bloated, because this is basically recreating the whole Noatun/Kaboodle thing.

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Re: Correct, 1+1 isn't 2 [was Re: oh no...]
by Kevin Krammer on Saturday 17/Feb/2007, @05:36

> the whole Noatun/Kaboodle thing

I always wonder how anyone could ever see any sort of duplication between Kaboodle and Noatun.

Perhaps some people like to have to click on ever music file separately and really hate playlists, or there are people who really love to have random sound files they have been checking in their filemanager end up in their playlist.

It's like the whole textprocessor/spreadsheet thing: how would anyone ever need a spreadsheet since textprocesssors can also do tables?

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Re: Correct, 1+1 isn't 2 [was Re: oh no...]
by yomama on Friday 10/Aug/2007, @19:52

spreadsheet analogy doesn't really work... text processors usually can't do formulas in tables... big difference

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Re: oh no...
by linuksamiko on Wednesday 14/Feb/2007, @08:40

I understand what you are saying but I still can't see the point of having to programs which seam to be pretty much the same.
I reminds me somehow on kate and kwriter. They both are regular editors and today it seams to me that kate is the only program which is used. So why was there a kwriter in the first place?
It is ok, having a large variety of programs, which might also compete but please not within a project like KDE.
But it is still an early stage and only time will tell which viewer will be used by most of the users.

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Re: oh no...
by superstoned on Wednesday 14/Feb/2007, @09:40

Well, the kate/kwrite thing is a bad example, as those are pretty much the same. Kwrite is just a lighter version of Kate, and less confusing for many normal users.

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Re: oh no...
by otherAC on Wednesday 14/Feb/2007, @14:08

even more, kwrite is kate with a simple skin.

kwrite is also magical: if you remove $KDEDIR/bin/kwrite, you can still start the application from kmenu :)

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