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Re: default filemanager
by Bernd on Saturday 24/Feb/2007, @06:31

First, I love konqueror too.
But, I just dont get it, why everybody want his own preferences to be the default.
Dolphin is an simpler(featureless) and easy to use filemanager.
Is it so insane to start with the simple interface as default for beginners?
If you are a more experienced user and want to use a more powerfull app like konqueror you should the hell be able to change that default. So stop whining.

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Re: default filemanager
by Anon on Saturday 24/Feb/2007, @06:35

Seriously - what part of "Konqueror will still be available" are people failing to grasp, here?

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Re: default filemanager
by viseztrance on Saturday 24/Feb/2007, @10:05

Did you knew that Microsoft Word can save in other formats than the infamous "doc" files ? I bet you did, but most people don't. Default means a lot. As long as konqueror will still be there, no problem i guess, but it hasn't seen too much development lately, has it not ?

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Re: default filemanager
by Bernd on Saturday 24/Feb/2007, @10:23

>>Did you knew that Microsoft Word can save in other formats than the infamous "doc" files ? <<
No, because I dont use that crap. ;)
I know the power of defaults, and especially for people that don't have an opion on that subject.
If I'm right, you are you fearing that if less people use konqueror, there will be less development on it ?
Then I say it's not the peoples duty to use a software in the hope that it becomes usefull someday.
Its the duty of a sofware to be usefull to the people, so that it deserves it's users.
I personally think/hope/whish that konqueror is able to hold its userbase without being the default filebrowser.

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Re: default filemanager
by Richard Van Den Boom on Saturday 24/Feb/2007, @11:23

Actually, it's increasingly difficult for beginners to have desktops that provide three or more applications which seem to do the same thing. At some point they just use the default and period. Which probably means very few will ever learn all the interest of Konqueror.
To avoid confusion, many distros will probably remove easy access to the apps that are not the default, remove them from the menu, etc. Just like there is Kaffeine in most distros but not Kplayer.
Again, as I posted above, the assumption that beginners should have simple looking apps with just three icons and is flawed in my opinion. What they just need is to be able to do the little things they already know easily, which is the case with Konqueror. The rest, they just ignore it at first and slowly they begin to use the features that they don't know. If you just hide them, they'll never use them. Making Konqueror a "power-user" app will guarantee you that most people will never have the chance of becoming a "power-user" (I put it in quotes because I think it's a stupid way of calling users that try to use more advanced features of their apps).

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Re: default filemanager
by illogic-al on Sunday 25/Feb/2007, @06:47

> Making Konqueror a "power-user" app will guarantee you that most people will never have the chance of becoming a "power-user" (I put it in quotes because I think it's a stupid way of calling users that try to use more advanced features of their apps).

But... that is the very definition of a power user. That's like saying you think "chef" is a stupid way of calling a cook who is more advanced than normal cooks in the kitchen.

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Re: default filemanager
by Ben on Sunday 25/Feb/2007, @09:56

Apart from you're ending comment about "power-user" I fully agree with this.

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Re: default filemanager
by superstoned on Monday 26/Feb/2007, @02:15

Konqi won't be a 'power-user' application. Konqi will be the webbrowser in KDE 4, Dolphin will be the filemanager. As konqi is based on Kparts, it CAN do filemanagement, just like it can do it now, but it won't be the default filemanager (though you can easily set it as default in Kcontrol or its successor).

We won't have many apps doing the same, we won't have one app doing two things like the current situation, but two apps each doing one thing as good as possible. Without losing any power or flexibility. Let's rejoice, please, as KDE doesn't take the Gnome route of REMOVING stuff, but is reorganizing and improving things instead...

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