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Re: default filemanager
by Emil Sedgh on Saturday 24/Feb/2007, @08:12

why developers think that they know better?
whey you dont try to take a poll and ask users about something like this?
Yes!Dolphin (maybe) is a good Simple File Manager.but whats the matter with Konqueror?maybe Distro's will change their filemanager to dolphin, if thats usefull.
KDE aims to be a powerfull Desktop Enviroment.Changing default file manager to Dolphin is againts this.so why developers dont try to make a new __EVERYTHING__ for KDE, to make it simple?
I agree that making Toolbars change ith Profiles is the best solution.

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Re: default filemanager
by Sutoka on Saturday 24/Feb/2007, @11:19

Two points:
1. A poll of Developers and Power users (how many casual users REALLY read the Dot?) would be ignoring a large part of the current user base, and a massive potential user base.
2. Who will most likely be able to change their settings: The power users, or the new users?

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Re: default filemanager
by superstoned on Monday 26/Feb/2007, @02:16

+1

Well, +100 actually. You get it, many here don't. I don't like dolphin, but I can change the default. For most ppl, Dolphin will be better for filemanagement, and they can still enter a local url in their 'webbrowser' anyway, so it's not like filebrowsing is 'hidden' in konqi... So what's the problem all these ppl seem to have?!?!?

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Re: default filemanager
by Aaron Seigo on Saturday 24/Feb/2007, @15:08

> why developers think that they know better?

why do users think their personal opinion constrained to their experience is better?

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Re: default filemanager
by eMPe on Sunday 25/Feb/2007, @05:37

Not better, more important than the developers opinion. Users know how they (wish to) use the software. That is quite important.
That said, changing the default to something simpler doesn't seem to have bad consequenses for konqui, does it?

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Re: default filemanager
by Emil Sedgh on Sunday 25/Feb/2007, @06:24

I dont think my personal experience is the best one.I said taking a poll is a good solution, because you are asking more people.

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Re: default filemanager
by Sutoka on Sunday 25/Feb/2007, @16:09

The results of that poll would be incredibly missleading. At best you'd just get the opinions of Developers and Power Users, which would be missing out on all the casual users and probably a huge chunk of the power users as well.

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Re: default filemanager
by otherAC on Saturday 24/Feb/2007, @15:26

>>why developers think that they know better?

In the end, they write the code..

>> whey you dont try to take a poll and ask users about something like this?

most users don't take polls.

>> Yes!Dolphin (maybe) is a good Simple File Manager.

So, what's the problem?

>>but whats the matter with Konqueror?

it's too technical and has too tight integrated filemanagement webbrowsing features

>>maybe Distro's will change their filemanager to dolphin,

which says enough about konqueror

>> KDE aims to be a powerfull Desktop Enviroment.Changing default file manager to Dolphin is againts this.

what's the difference between distro's defaulting to dolphin or kde defaulting to it and distro follow that choise?
Both ways dolphin becomes the default filemanager on many systems.
powerusers can change that easily to konqueror

>> I agree that making Toolbars change ith Profiles is the best solution

That's how konqueror works in kde 3.x
Apperently, that's not considered the best solution for kde4

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Re: default filemanager
by Emil Sedgh on Sunday 25/Feb/2007, @06:36

>> In the end, they write the code..
I know this.i know they write code and they make my life easier.I am a KDE fan, im living with it and i love it.but i dont think every time I want to write a comment, i should repeat these.everybody knows these.

>> most users don't take polls.
which is better?asking 10-50 developers or asking all of dot people who read dot?

>> it's too technical and has too tight integrated filemanagement webbrowsing features
I think making Konqueror's code cleaner is easier than making a new file manager.and its really the good piece of Konqueror.its both Filemanager and web-browser.

>> what's the difference between distro's defaulting to dolphin or kde defaulting to it and distro >> follow that choise?
>> Both ways dolphin becomes the default filemanager on many systems.
>> powerusers can change that easily to konqueror

KDE should try to use the best applications with its default package.lots of distro's will not touch it.

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Re: default filemanager
by otherAC on Sunday 25/Feb/2007, @14:45

>>I know this.

But you asked the question :)

>>which is better?asking 10-50 developers or asking all of dot people who read dot?

I'd say the developers.
Average users don't read the dot.

Best choice would be to ask a team of experts to determine what's the best choice for kde.
Not a bunch of random users..

>>I think making Konqueror's code cleaner is easier than making a new file manager
Yep, and that is what i would like to see.
But apperently the kde developers choose otherwise.
I hope they would change their mind and make konqueror a less cluttered webbrowser/filemanager, but with dolphin in kdebase they chose another path.

>>KDE should try to use the best applications with its default package.lots of distro's will not touch it.

What's best is not easy to determine.
It looks like distro's are looking for a more simplified desktop, so even if konqueror is default and dolphin part of extragear, chances are that kubuntu for example chooses dolphin as default..

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Re: default filemanager
by Emil Sedgh on Sunday 25/Feb/2007, @06:41

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