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Re: TechBase
by anonymous on Sunday 25/Feb/2007, @14:14

Speaking of techbase... why? There was already wiki.kde.org
What does techbase give that was not possible there?
Will techbase become wiki.kde.org?
Will wiki.koffice.org migrate back to wiki.kde.org?

Also it's awesome to hear that phonon is taking off. Way to go everyone!

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Re: TechBase
by logixoul on Sunday 25/Feb/2007, @14:37

> What does techbase give that was not possible there?
MediaWiki.
And no, wiki.kde.org will not change from TikiWiki as the admin likes that better. In fact he develops it.

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Re: TechBase
by AC on Sunday 25/Feb/2007, @15:50

Tikiwiki is the only reason I stay away from wiki.kde.org as much as I can. It's really a shame that one of the most popular open source project has a wiki that is, to be kind, a mess.
Why can't we have a decent one just because a self-proclaimed admin don't allow to explore other options? How about a poll here on the dot? [/rant]

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Re: TechBase
by MK on Sunday 25/Feb/2007, @18:17

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Re: TechBase
by Leo S on Monday 26/Feb/2007, @00:06

Oh dear god do I ever agree with you. I can't count how many times I've double clicked on a word in that wiki to select it and that stupid thing thinks I want to edit the page, and then warns me with a popup that the page is being edited by anonymous. Probably some other poor sod that accidentally clicked the page.

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Re: TechBase
by JohnFlux on Monday 26/Feb/2007, @03:05

So true! I couldn't understand what happened the first time I did that.

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Re: TechBase
by logixoul on Monday 26/Feb/2007, @11:23

You can disable that: Preferences ť Use double-click to edit pages.

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Re: TechBase
by Anonymous Coward on Monday 26/Feb/2007, @00:29

+1. Not only I hate it as a user, but when I tried to install it as an admin, I got scared how messy it is. MediaWiki is a lot more comfortable, and better of all, has a decent design.

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Re: TechBase
by superstoned on Monday 26/Feb/2007, @10:17

well, it's not THAT bad, but I prefer mediawiki as well, and twiki (twiki.org) is very good as well - maybe even better than mediawiki.

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Re: TechBase
by logixoul on Monday 26/Feb/2007, @11:18

> Tikiwiki is the only reason I stay away from wiki.kde.org as much as I can.
Same for me.
See also http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?comments_parentId=418&forumId=2 .
I've yet to respond on that one...

> It's really a shame that one of the most popular open source project has a wiki that is, to be kind, a mess.
Hey, it's only the user wiki, developers have a cool one... but yeah.

> Why can't we have a decent one just because a self-proclaimed admin don't allow to explore other options?
1. Are you offering your services as a committed admin of a MediaWikified wiki.kde.org? If no, you argument doesn't hold.
2. He says migrating the user database and complete history to MediaWiki is entirely too timeconsuming and that he'd rather improve our TikiWiki installation than go through the producedure. He's open to suggestions in channel #kde-wiki but he doesn't seem to have much time.

> How about a poll here on the dot?
Again, a poll is useless as there's no one to admin a KDE user MediaWiki.

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not that difficult
by MK on Monday 26/Feb/2007, @13:46

> Again, a poll is useless as there's no one to admin a KDE user MediaWiki.

starting one should be easy: http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Wikia

if it grows I am sure we will find someone who will host it in the kde domain.

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Re: TechBase
by Diederik van der Boor on Monday 26/Feb/2007, @00:18

> Speaking of techbase... why? There was already wiki.kde.org
> What does techbase give that was not possible there?

The contents of developer.kde.org will be moved there. Using a Wiki makes it easier to maintain. KDE Techbase is KDE's answer to MSDN and Apple's Developer Connection sites.

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Re: TechBase
by Aaron J. Seigo on Monday 26/Feb/2007, @00:25

> There was already wiki.kde.org

techbase is a(n eventual) replacement for developer.kde.org, kde.org/areas/sysadmin and other related web pages. techbase is a wiki, but it is not analogous to wiki.kde.org.

techbase is specifically, stricly and only for technical information of interest to developers (community and ISV), sysadmins and system integrators. it is there to drive kde development internally as well as provide resources external parties.

quality, organization and coverage are all high priorities. wiki.kde.org is a bit more of a free-for-all when it comes to these sorts of things. while community involvement in techbase is encouraged and supported (that's why it's a wiki, for instance) the techbase team actually does maintain the content and structure.

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