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Re: Konqueror
by Aaron J. Seigo on Thursday 01/Mar/2007, @23:52
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> that their file managers are not as capable as Konqueror
what capabilities are you concerned will be left behind?
you see, the goal is not to create a crappy file manager. it's to create a file manager that has just that one purpose in life. that means it needs to be capable and include the best features kde makes available to it.
> only users I hear complain about Konqueror
this isn't in response to complaints. it's in response to the usability of konqueror as tested with real people.
> then why not simply use Krusader
krusader is an interesting tool with a very dedicated following. however, to make it usable for the general user base and make it feel modern would require some massive changes. i don't think that's fair to the project's users or developers. they know what they want. |
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Re: Konqueror
by ? on Friday 02/Mar/2007, @00:56
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> what capabilities are you concerned will be left behind?
directory tree.
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Re: Konqueror
by ppenz on Friday 02/Mar/2007, @01:21
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It seems that the missing directory tree is one of the most requested features of Dolphin. I'll start implementing a prototype during the next days, so that Dolphin offers a dock for such a tree. It's also planned to integrate Qt4.3'
s ColumnView into Dolphin (see Icefox' blog http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2701 for details).
Best regards,
Peter
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Re: Konqueror
by infopipe on Friday 02/Mar/2007, @02:21
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> It's also planned to integrate Qt4.3's ColumnView into Dolphin (see Icefox' blog
> http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2701 for details).
Nice. I'm eager to see this in dolphin!
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Re: Konqueror
by superstoned on Friday 02/Mar/2007, @02:32
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nice! I must say I did expect you to do this, as it's a pretty basic filemanager feature. And I have all the confidence in you and the other dolphin hackers to expect dolphin to be very cool. I might even use it, though that's not very likely as i often deliberately mix webbrowsing and filemanagement (drag'n'drop a local or ftp or fish file into a html input field like gmail's using split-window for example).
Anyway, I think this will benefit KDE enormously.
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Re: Konqueror
by Ben on Friday 02/Mar/2007, @03:19
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I suppose some people will love QColumnView, but you really really must include the traditional tree view as well.
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Re: Konqueror
by Anon on Friday 02/Mar/2007, @04:58
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"It seems that the missing directory tree is one of the most requested features of Dolphin. I'll start implementing a prototype during the next days, so that Dolphin offers a dock for such a tree."
Everybody claiming that the incorporation of Dolphin is a sign of the "GNOME-ificiation" of KDE would do well to read this post. There's no reason - none at all - why Dolphin shouldn't be a very powerful file manager, perhaps surpassing Konqueror itself, which must sometimes make concessions due to its dual-nature and resulting large code-base.
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Re: Konqueror
by AS on Wednesday 30/Jan/2008, @17:25
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Posting one year later:
The dirtree in Dolphin sucks. No horizontal scrolling (bad when you start to get far down a tree), no way to choose the root of the tree (it changes it for you depending on where you go in the filesystem.. brilliant?), and the root of the tree *isn't even shown*. No copy and paste on the directories shows in the dirtree. It is inferior in every way. *Nautilus*' dirtree is better.
It's clear the dirtree was added just to get those of us who complained about it's absence to shut up, and was promptly left to rot. It was added by people who obviously don't care about it or use things like it (since they initially left it out) and it shows.
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Re: Konqueror
by FH on Friday 02/Mar/2007, @01:06
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embedded console part
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Re: Konqueror
by ppenz on Friday 02/Mar/2007, @01:17
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It is planned that this will be supported in the final version for Dolphin for KDE 4.0.
Best regards,
Peter
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Re: Konqueror
by Debian User on Friday 02/Mar/2007, @10:35
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I personally am surprised that so many people fear that Dolphin will be worse file browser in any way than Konqueror.
My fear is that once Dolphin gets so good like it already looks, that my beloved Konqueror gets neglected in the file management domain.
To me it makes sense to e.g. have a file manager in one tab and certain web sites that relate to these files there. I like "Copy to location" menu from the context, etc.
What I think people don't want to miss is what Kontact is to Kmail and Knode, with regards to Konqueror and Dolphin. The one thing that allows them to be tightly bundled. What surprises me is that instead of Dolphin, there wasn't a web browser spin off done, or both at the same time, with a unification plan.
Yours, Kay
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Re: Konqueror
by Phase II on Friday 02/Mar/2007, @13:17
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> what capabilities are you concerned will be left behind?
tabs.
See my post below:
http://dot.kde.org/1172721427/1172845277/1172856948/
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Re: Konqueror
by WPosche on Sunday 04/Mar/2007, @13:31
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I second that. Tabs should not get lost.
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