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Re: Nice looking, but...
by Torsten Rahn on Friday 09/Mar/2007, @02:50

> Still no. The toolbar is a tool, not art.

A tool - especially if it's in wide use - is always subject to considerations of look and feel. Due to the sheer importance of look and feel in today's world you've got to make compromises between better looks, better usability and flexibility.
What you obviously think about when talking about usability is efficient and comfortable usage of a kind of poweruser who doesn't care about esthetics. However that's only one small part of the whole broad spectrum of users KDE supports.

> My fault is to write this here since it seems to be the concern
> of Qt, not of Oxygen. You could do it in KDE 1)

I remember someone from Trolltech having said that it was dropped because nobody really used it. And worse: I have seen many people who "lost" their menubar in Windows and KDE 1 because they managed to move it in some way out of sight.

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Re: Nice looking, but...
by neurol23 on Friday 09/Mar/2007, @03:45

if menubar could have been "lost" in windows, then it was a windows bug.

it's sufficient to implement the functionality. no need to replicate the bug also ;-)

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Re: Nice looking, but...
by reihal on Friday 09/Mar/2007, @11:23

"a kind of poweruser who doesn't care about esthetics"

I'm not a poweruser (whatever that is) and I do care about esthetics.
If you had looked at my screenshot you would have seen ample amounts of
white space, but in the content where it belongs.

I just don't think an empty space in the upper right-hand corner of every
application is good esthetics or good usability.

"someone from Trolltech having said"

I am sure Matthias Ettrich can hack this during a coffee break or some such.

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