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Compatible to freedesktop?
by Sebastian Werner on Thursday 08/Mar/2007, @00:53
Does this mean that Oxygen is naming compatible to the freedesktop standard? Does this mean that it really use the same names as tango for example? That would be really great!

With the KDE4 release, do you think it is possible to dual license the artwork under LGPL/EPL. That would make it possible for us, the qooxdoo developers, to also use the Oxygen icons in our JavaScript Framework qooxdoo (http://qooxdoo.org) which is also under LGPL/EPL.
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Re: Compatible to freedesktop?
by shamaz on Thursday 08/Mar/2007, @01:27
As far as I know, oxygen icons are compatible with the freedesktop standard, and "licensed under a creative commons v3 attribution, share-like license" (http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2007/03/daytime-excitement.html)
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Re: Compatible to freedesktop?
by Jakob Petsovits on Thursday 08/Mar/2007, @02:10
1. Yes, it does use the freedesktop.org icon naming specification (the one initially published by the Tango team). So you can load Oxygen as a GNOME theme and get happy with it.

2. Stemming from KDE's requirements, it currently has a few more standard icons than what is specified in the icon naming spec. Which means that KDE applications will make use of those "non-standard" standard icons, and KDE applications won't get all the required icons from a theme that restricts itself to "standard" specified icons.

That's mainly because the icon naming specification has strong roots in GNOME/GTK+ naming, and the Oxygen team has to work together with the Tango team to get more of the important KDE stuff into the naming specification. It's a matter of communication, but now that Oxygen actually follows the overall naming specification scheme, it will be a lot easier to work out.

I'm looking forward to kdelibs just containing icons from the spec (and a few additional application icons), and the spec containing all icons that are for KDE apps. Let's see how this works out.
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  • Re: Compatible to freedesktop?
    by Aaron Seigo on Thursday 08/Mar/2007, @20:50
    yes, we're hoping to move at least some of our icon names up into the spec where there are gaps in the spec. this will likely happen post-4.0 as things shake out and firm up more.
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Re: Compatible to freedesktop?
by Debian User on Thursday 08/Mar/2007, @15:06
Having read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eclipse_Public_License I doubt that this will happen. Not only can you use the Icons without attribution then, but also claim them for yourselves, under restrictive license.

Look here from techbase:

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Image previews of Oxygen are released under the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 2.5 License. This is to keep Oxygen fresh for KDE 4, that will be released sometime in the middle of 2006.
The Oxygen icon theme will be released under a GNU License. Most likely, this will be LGPL - however there is hope to have an official GNU License for icons/images by that time.
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So before KDE release the Oxygen Icons are not even Free. Afterwards they likely still want to be them KDE icons, not Eclipse icons.

Yours, Kay
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  • Re: Compatible to freedesktop?
    by Aaron Seigo on Thursday 08/Mar/2007, @20:48
    the license changed last week before being brought into kdelibs. the CC v3.0 share alike, attribution license is now being used. it's an art appropriate license that affords the freedoms we expect from similar licneses we use with our software.
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    • Re: Compatible to freedesktop?
      by Petteri on Friday 09/Mar/2007, @15:52
      Ok, Cool. So hopefully this means that the new licence (cc v3) is compatible with debians DFSG?
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      • Re: Compatible to freedesktop?
        by Aaron Seigo on Saturday 10/Mar/2007, @09:03
        i don't think this is a settled question yet, sadly.
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