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Re: Impressive!
by Wackou on Monday 19/Mar/2007, @15:04
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If you read carefully my post, I didn't say that, however sometimes you *need* a console. I use if mostly for work, but even on the desktop it can prove a useful shortcut in certain occasions.
Just from the top of my head, I had to do this today:
from a base directory, find all mp3 files, and write a text file containing the name of the file without the extension, colon, the full path to the file.
i.e.:
song1: artist/album/song1.mp3
song2: another_artist/different_album/song2.mp3
(the actual task was slightly more complicated, but I simplified it for clarity)
Now, the day some GUI application allows me to do this, in a simple, clean and intuitive way, maybe I'll stop using a terminal. Until then...
Regards,
Wackou.
PS: remember that some people work with their computer, not only use it as a media center... |
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Re: Impressive!
by Debian User on Monday 19/Mar/2007, @16:39
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Well, if we were able to use directory trees as spreadsheet, I wouldn't mind.
You would be doing "basename" functions there on cells instead of `basename ...` calls, etc.
May be even more powerful, if you ask me.
But until then, I agree, the console allows automation with tremendous flexibility that is unmatched.
My digital photos e.g. are mailed to the studio that prints them with KMail and need to be attached. I can't do all in one mail. So it takes me only a little script to feed 10 images per mail automatically into Kmail, with To: and Subject: correctly filled. Would I do this manually, it would hurt me, with like 300 pictures. (Uploading them per HTML form in terms of one by one on a 10 element form would hurt even more, which is their alternative. I could do that with wput, but the email way has the nice advantage of being async and retry, and everything in the background with state of completion, and their email confirmation too).
How on earth would I otherwise e.g. find all ".tar.gz" and repack them into ".tar.bz2" in the background for space savings, without any manual intervention.
For mass renaming operations I used to create scripts, but I now prefer krename for that, as it's more flexible with greater ease (although not more flexible absolute). So that's no longer a point for console. I actually start krename from konsole often though as it's e.g. easier to find files that are not yet renamed with find.
Yours,
Kay
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Re: Impressive!
by djouallah mimoune on Tuesday 20/Mar/2007, @02:25
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Wackou
I use computers for my daily work, no problem at this point, yesterday I was reading an IT blog and it seems adobe has released a cross platform runtime environment to deploy a new generation of application like ajax but they still work even offline, it is crazy man, just click a link and it is up and running.
Ok after that I come to the dot, and guess what, people are excited about how Konsole is so cool and sexy. I used console especially for linux, sometimes I have no choice or perhaps I don’t know other ways to do it in a GUI mode.
So my post was rather subjective. And sorry if I hurt your beloved console.
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Re: Impressive!
by Wackou on Tuesday 20/Mar/2007, @03:24
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Hi,
No offense meant (nor taken), don't worry :-)
The thing is, as someone mentioned it before, this article is about Konsole, so yeah, you'll fine people praising a console application here, not that brand new Apollo thingy... I guess people weren't talking about Konsole in the Apollo article, either. It's just the context.
So yeah, among others posts, there's mine saying that for a console app, Konsole is pretty sexy. Of course, at the sexy level, it doesn't even compare to Amarok or other GUI apps, but hell, people never talk about it (Amarok, K3b and Konqueror steal all the fame), so I was quite thrilled that for once, someone was putting Konsole in the spotlight. Which may explain my over-enthusiasm!!
Regards,
Wackou.
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Re: Impressive!
by djouallah mimoune on Tuesday 20/Mar/2007, @09:00
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'I guess people weren't talking about Konsole in the Apollo article, either. It's just the context'
No they were speaking about the next generation desktop application paradigm, not about eh 40 years old (perhaps more) user interface
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Re: Impressive!
by Sutoka on Tuesday 20/Mar/2007, @10:16
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And one article the 'next generation desktop application paradigm' (yeah just like XUL was the next generation last generation) was on topic, and on the other the '40 year old user interface' was on topic.
Talking about Apollo here is pointless (unless you're references it as somehow that Konsole can be improved, which hasn't happened).
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