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Re: Impressive!
by mabinogi on Monday 19/Mar/2007, @15:25
we're in 2007 and some people still don't understand that advanced users are users too.

You can go ahead and make the desktop as easy to learn, and as easy to use (two completely different, and often conflicting goals) as you like - as long as you don't cripple it for those of us who actually know what we're doing.

Even Apple ship a command line these days.
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Re: Impressive!
by Wackou on Monday 19/Mar/2007, @15:54
Perfectly agreed.

I use Amarok for listening to my music (and rediscovering it!), K3b to burn CDs, and more generally any GUI app that lets me do the stuff I want the way I want. However, sometimes I _need_ to to console-based stuff, and I am glad to have an equally good application for this, not just some old terminal that sucks...

People do not wonder why we still write programs in a text editor (or IDE), using (oh my god!) a keyboard, rather than connecting blocks with a mouse.

I think it all boils down to the same problem: GUI apps are tailored to a specific task, and allow you (arguably) to perform it in an easier and more intuitive way. However, sometimes you need the flexibility to describe exactly what you want to do, and more often than not, it is much faster to do this by writing it by hand, rather than clicking in a list of options pre-selected for you...

And to expand on the parent's comment, even Microsoft realized they needed a better shell in Vista.

Wackou.
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Re: Impressive!
by Darkelve on Tuesday 20/Mar/2007, @01:16
Well, I'm a pretty non-advanced guy who prefers using GUI for nearly anything. And yet I couldn't miss a console, to do certain things.

Konsole is the best for me, although I usually use xterm if I'm in a hurry. Starts fast, no-frills, and it works. And nearly all distro's have it.
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