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Re: SCREW the simplicity attitude! Go for EFFICIENCY!
by eMPee on Thursday 22/Mar/2007, @09:03
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cant chill right now have a very important exam tomorrow X==P
anyways what i said not only applies to file dialogs but everything in kde, that's why i quoted out of context ;)
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Re: SCREW the simplicity attitude! Go for EFFICIENCY!
by Debian User on Thursday 22/Mar/2007, @16:25
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You know, KDE4 is not even Alpha yet. For these detail levels, a review is not yet appropriate, I believe. Arguing about what's not yet there is NOT the point of the previews.
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Re: SCREW the simplicity attitude! Go for EFFICIENCY!
by MamiyaOtaru on Sunday 25/Mar/2007, @15:44
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Yes it is. Better to talk about stuff now than when things are set in stone. Reminds me of the Deus Ex 2 dev cycle. There was stuff I didn't like and said so, and people told me to chill, it wasn't done yet. When the demo came out, the same stuff was there and I expressed my dislike and (other) people said "I didn't hear you complain about that (loss of) feature when it was talked about before the demo." Thing is, by then it was too late.
KDE4 is looking more and more like Deus Ex 2, with stuff being cut out and people saying not to knock an alpha. Yeah, like any changes people might like will magically happen before final when development up to this point indicates strongly that they won't. I'm just ignoring Dolphin for now as it just gets me too worked up. I'd rather not ignore KDE4, but I suppose I should do that too.
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Re: SCREW the simplicity attitude! Go for EFFICIEN
by Richard Van Den Boom on Friday 23/Mar/2007, @02:44
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I admire your dedication to calm thigs down. :-D
One thing I'd like to point out : it seems to me that every feature that's in KDE is there because some user at some point requested it and because many users actually like it. That's open source after all.
So when you decide that any type of feature is not right because it's not consistent with a "concept" (OK, I know that no change is planned, I speak in general ;-)), you'll sure to piss off many users.
So it really seems to me that any change that may impact the way people work should be pondered and not really discarded just because of "concepts". There are already a lot of desktops with "concepts" and this usually means you like them or not because you digg in their concepts or not.
I think that a lot of people liked KDE because the whole concept seemed to be : "Do as you like it". So when there is a feeling that a way of working, considered the best for unclear reasons that look more like personal likings than argumented and statically supported choice, is forced down the users, it is not surprising to see uproars.
Of course, many posts are too harsh or make too many asumptions (mine included), but when a real uproar occurs, it should be taken seriously, I think.
Anyway, I still like to thank all the KDE developpers for their involvement in this projet, I'm sure that in the end, the whole thing will be great. I just hope there won't be too much friction in the process.
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