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Re: Oxygen icons?
by Troy Unrau on Wednesday 21/Mar/2007, @22:00
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Mosfet never drew icons - he did widget themes and so forth, in the KDE 2.x series. Coding, not drawing. He had gotten married and moved on, as far as I know. I don't know about Everaldo, but the crystal icon set has not been updated in a long time. (It still lives in KDE 4 in the kde-artwork module for those who prefer it... Actually, the hi-color icon theme is still there from KDE 2.x as well, if anyone cares :P )
KDE has a constant but slow turnover of developers, artists, translators, and so forth. The biggest causes being university graduation; marriage/children; and new jobs with high time commitments. Uni graduation is the worst though, as many of our most prolific coders are also students. Unless they get jobs at Trolltech, graduation usually seriously hinders their KDE time. I myself may fall prey to that one within the next while :)
Anyway, you can resize the icons to fit your needs. In the Dolphin config dialog, there's a slider for icon size... the icons are SVG, so they look decent at just about any size you'd like, except perhaps really small sizes :) Still a work in progress though folks :)
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Re: Oxygen icons?
by Beavis Christ on Wednesday 21/Mar/2007, @23:03
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I agree. The icons in these screenshots look positively horrid. They're much too detailed for a small icon size.
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Re: Oxygen icons?
by Henry S. on Thursday 22/Mar/2007, @00:16
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I think they look fine at this stage. I like the photo-realistic
direction it is going. Perhaps there will be further improvements
as we approach KDE 4.0 that may please more folks. As a programmer,
I don't like to be overly critical of works-in-progress.
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Re: Oxygen icons?
by superstoned on Thursday 22/Mar/2007, @03:46
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Indeed, I like'em too, and they're still working on them. What I don't like, though, is the shadow: it sometimes looks really silly and out-of-place. Check the dolphin screenshot, where there is a shadow beneath the little button which can turn the breadcrump into a lineedit... Looks really weird.
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Re: Oxygen icons?
by pinheiro on Thursday 22/Mar/2007, @10:17
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Not intirly oxygen foult there, kde tends to miss use icons were they are not suposed to be, like action icons as mimetype icons and so on. This is beeing worked out.
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some criticism here, 2--
by eMPee on Thursday 22/Mar/2007, @02:20
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first of all, glad the code is coming along and we'll finally have the desktop revolution by late autumn, thanks for anyone contributing to this great project.
I have some issues with the present state as shown in the screenshots here, one of them, yes, being the icon set. Current Oxygen icons
- do have too little contrast around the *border*. There is some sort of shadow thing in the SVG files, which would have to be increased quite a bit to make the icons easily recognizable using light window styles. Crystal is great not only because it has colorful icons with a nice color palette but _great contrast_ of the icons (mostly)..
- the folder icon looks mashed up in the tree. The KDE3 one is much much better, have a look and see for yourself someone.
- the view angles are problematic for me. Some icons (printer, scanner,...) need more 3d imho (=> tilt them a bit?), some less (folder icon..). That is of course only my highly subjective point of view.
- The screenshot of the progress manager shows one most ugly thing: the 'file://' in front of local paths. That is WAY bad. Please make it go away everywhere by default. We never needed it the decades before and it is not a feature. Them escaped sequences (%20) look not good too.
- Considering microtypographic standards, text kerning in Koffice is just not good enough right now. Perhaps the output of LaTeX would be a good reference target to aim for, kinda.
Except from the last, those are all minor things though and I know they'll be fixed when stuff gets on air. Thx for that already ;)
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Re: some criticism here, 2--
by Manabu on Thursday 22/Mar/2007, @07:36
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Agree with all! That is why everyone is talking about the icons being washed out.
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Re: some criticism here, 2--
by MamiyaOtaru on Sunday 25/Mar/2007, @16:22
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The kerning is indeed as awful as it always was. The standard response was always "it will be fixed with Qt4." Is the answer actually "never" then?
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Keep small icons, but better ones.
by Manabu on Thursday 22/Mar/2007, @07:42
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The icons sizes are more sane this time. I don't like big icons, and they are realy unusable in 800x600 screens. Remember: these screns are 10% of all computers surfing the web, and probably more if you count the ones not connected. I was in one of those some time ago, and Windows 2000, and even Windos XP desktops were much more usable than KDE and especialy Gnome. I hope it at least don't get worse in KDE4.
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Re: Oxygen icons?
by David Vignoni on Thursday 22/Mar/2007, @10:20
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Ha.
So I see many comments here that means nothing to me. Really.
@reihal:
have you tryied the theme or you are just guessing that the icons shown there won't resize well?
FYI there are small version of almost every icon.
Everaldo is here: www.everaldo.com
@all:
the size shown there is 32x32. Dolphin is loading an action icon called folder.svg instead of the real folder in "places" directory.
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Re: Oxygen icons?
by reihal on Friday 23/Mar/2007, @05:30
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Everaldo is here too:
http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Crystal+SVG?content=8341
Everybody and his dog supports Crystal SVG icons, except the KDE developers.
It's a mystery.
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Re: Oxygen icons?
by Luca Beltrame on Friday 23/Mar/2007, @06:37
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For a while Crystal did not have a license at all. Secondly, there were problems in getting the sources for the icons.
I fully support the switch from Crystal to Oxygen (which I like better anyway).
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