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Re: Aquamarine + beryl
by Aaron Seigo on Wednesday 30/May/2007, @13:45

> Why is it I never experienced those?

they are called "fringe" for a reason. a production window manager that is relied on as heavily as kwin is needs to be solid in all cases. these include all sorts of things such as the handling of certain types of java windows, apps that try to self-manage their windows, etc.

> What are "transients"?

windows that only exist in conjunction with another window; e.g. a warning dialog associated with a main window.

you also seemed to have skipped over the "works on all hardware" bit.

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Re: Aquamarine + beryl
by dude on Sunday 03/Jun/2007, @09:26

Your arguments are convincing me, Aaron.

I'm glad to see this feature additions now happening in KDE's own window manager. That's for sure the most logical thing to happen.

But imagine for a moment that something "bad" had happened to Lubos in the last 6 months (the infamous "bus case"... or that he got fed up with KDE4 coding... or $whatever): who would then have taken over kwin maintainership (*and* kept his sanity)??

And would Lubos have felt so much incentive and/or inspiration to defend his kwin territory's supremacy if there would not have been the challengers of compiz+beryl?? :-)

So, to me, it looks like it was not bad at all to have seen that crazyness of the "competing" window managers' speedy feature additions happening in the last year or so (and see them being able to work with KDE3 just fine), and experience a serious "migration" of the more playful and adventurous-minded section in our user base over to the camp the competition (using a non-KDE window manager to run their KDE desktops).

Beryl+compiz certainly didn't hinder kwin's development, and provided a lot of examples (to follow as well as to avoid). So hats off to them!

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