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  KDE Commit-Digest for 15th July 2007
Developer Posted by Danny Allen on Monday 16/Jul/2007, @04:33
from the it's-that-time-of-the-week dept.
In this week's KDE Commit-Digest: Much work in Amarok, with the implementation of a CoverFlow-esque OpenGL album art visualisation, codenamed "CoverBling", and Service Framework and Plasmification efforts. Sample OpenGL-based applets added to Plasma,, with Plasmoids to watch for changes to files, for browsing files, and to monitor network interfaces. General progress in the 2d projection and KML in Marble, OpenPrinting, and KOrganizer Theming Summer of Code projects. KWallet support in KRDC. KMines essentially rewritten with a QGraphicsView base, with support for multiple background SVG themes in KGoldRunner. More manipulation and view work in Kreative3d. Implementation of Kubelka-Munk paint mixing research in Krita. Internet integration in Kaider, with a WebQuery view and example script to use Google Translate. okular becomes usable as a print preview component. KTrace, a "strace" interface for KDE 4 added to playground/sysadmin. Beginnings of support for ComunIP, a Brazilian IM protocol in Kopete. More progress in the porting of Digikam and KTorrent to KDE 4. The start of a rewrite of the Oxygen widget style. KBFX, an alternate K menu, moves to kdereview.


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KBFX?
by Emil Sedgh on Monday 16/Jul/2007, @04:57
"KBFX, an alternate K menu, moves to kdereview"

As I know KMenu and KBFX, both will replaced by Raptor Menu of Plasma and Kicker will have no place is 4.x Series.Where doest KBFX Wants to go?
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Oxygen re-write
by Anon on Monday 16/Jul/2007, @05:09
"The start of a rewrite of the Oxygen widget style"

The Oxygen widget set looked quite yummy, last time I saw it, and lots of effort had been put into it - what's the rationale behind the re-write, may I ask? Is the windec also being re-written? Also, given that the corners of the Oxygen windec are curved, will clicking the very top-right pixel of the screen when a window is maximised close that window?
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New Protocols in Kopete?
by Lee on Monday 16/Jul/2007, @06:19
I thought Kopete still had to go through a whole switch to phonon and other new backends (for presence etc.), along with porting all of the old protocols. Has this already happened, or is it possible to add protocols independently of that work? Or has the other stuff been set aside for the moment?

I only ever had three problems with kopete: a) stability, and b) speed of the chat history and some other gui stuff, and c) no audio/video chat support. I still use it over anything else. If that stuff's fixed, I'll be more than happy with "Kopete 4".
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FINALLY !!
by shamaz on Monday 16/Jul/2007, @06:34
"David Vignoni committed changes in /trunk/KDE/kdelibs/pics/oxygen:
Switching arrows to use Pinheiro's Scribus arrows."

Thank you :)
They look very good.
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Qxygen style
by anonymous on Monday 16/Jul/2007, @06:44
How about a pixmap engine where everybody can easily change the appearance without coding skills. Hasn't Mac OS X such thing?
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Love Krita, question about Kopete.
by Matt on Monday 16/Jul/2007, @07:19
Alright, as a typical person who learnt digital image editting on Photoshop (version 5 or something), I got used to how things were done in it. I've used GIMP several times as well, and although I can usually do the same thing in it, I like Krita a lot more. Starting with KOffice 2.0, I believe that Krita can become a Photoshop competitor someday, and I can finally start recommending something other than the GIMP for people whom want a free photo and image editor that supports lots of professional photography techniques (and is available on Windows and Mac OS X).

About Kopete: it's nice to see more protocols added to it, but I was wondering how far it was in making a rock-solid Jabber implementation. It'd be nice if Kopete could try to promote using Jabber or IRC a bit more over using proprietary protocols, and having support for most of the XMPP standards and proposals could go a long way towards helping that. I can also recommend this over Pidgin to people as well (although Miranda IM for Windows is pretty sweet, it's a total power user sort of application).

Thanks, KDE guys! You rock!
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Digikam ported to KDE4
by m. on Monday 16/Jul/2007, @07:46
Today Gilles finished base porting of Digikam to KDE4. Unstable as hell so don't try it with your prize winning photo collection but... :)
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KDE fonts??
by cb on Monday 16/Jul/2007, @08:27
Anyone knows whether KDE 4.0 will include Redhat's beautiful Liberation fonts to be used as default? They are much more a pleasure to look at than any default fonts used by KDE at the moment. Their license appears to be good for Linux and KDE too. Thanx.
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by Luis on Monday 16/Jul/2007, @12:49
I hate the idea of K apps on Windows/OSX, but, anyway:
As far as I know Plasma won't be port to windows/OSX, so if amarok will may use Plasma for the context view, isn't this making it unportable to windows/OSX? (I know the libraries of plasma are part of kde, but they can be use under windows/OSX?)

Is it possible that Kopete could use windows lists skins (somehow like Adium?

Are you aiming to the same look whit the new Oxygen Widget Style? (Somethings just look amazing, but it lacks contrast and it look a little plain)
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KGeography maps in/on Marble
by skierpage on Monday 16/Jul/2007, @14:23
What happens when you drag a KGeography map into Marble? Or stack the 50% transparent plasmoid of one atop the other?

:-) 8-/ <3 !
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Donation
by Henry S. on Monday 16/Jul/2007, @17:00
I just donated like 15 GBP as a thanks for the KDE Commit-Digest.
I don't know how much a GBP is, but I hope it's not equal to a
thousand dollars. But hopefully it'll help them keep coming!
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Plasma in Applications
by Ben on Monday 16/Jul/2007, @23:23
I thought plasma was basically Kdesktop, Kicker and SuperKramba combined, how come its possible to include it in applications?
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start of a rewrite of the Oxygen
by Max on Tuesday 17/Jul/2007, @02:01
I don't know how Oxygen widget set looks like, but I hope, that "clean GUI" ideas such as: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/KDE+4.x+Dark+Liquid?content=62269 will be implemended. No edges, no gui noise, no extra borders between widgets! That sort of mockups looks great! Examples:

http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=34997
http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=28476
http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Dolphin+mockup%21?content=56040
http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/KDE4+Simple+Style?content=55317

Almost all of this mockups has highest rating meaning that many people think the same.

Good luck!
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Two Things
by Hannes Hauswedell on Wednesday 18/Jul/2007, @01:57
two things i really would like to see in kde4:
1) more consistent behaviour inbetween applications, especially concerning hotkeys. e.g. if shift-right switches to the next tab in konsole and yakuake, then why doesnt it do that in konqueror and kopete? also ctrl-m hides the menubar in konqueror and kmplayer, but doing that isnt even possible in kmail and juk...
could these things not be controlled by underlying kde-infrastructure so that they work the same with all kde-apps?

2) better and centralized privacy options, e.g. the possibility to disable the use of "histories" and "recent files" throughout all kde-apps. also it would be nice if each app would provide "clear recent files list"-action, this could be the last element of the "recent files menu"

what do you think? it shouldnt be too hard from a technical pov, or am i mistaken?

thanks!
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Menu, also important for marketing
by Birger on Thursday 19/Jul/2007, @01:03
In regards to all the menu discussions here:

Please remember that the menu is a very important first impression item when a new user tries a system.

It is of course very important that the menu is technically good, but it is also very important that if "feels" good for newcommers.

KDE4 is in many ways a fresh start for KDE and will attract users from all sorts of environments. It is important that they feel comfortable and get a good first impression.

A shure way do push users away is to have a menu that is "experts only" or looks like it is made for engineers only.

My personal expereince is that menus like Kickoff (have not tested the other newcommers) are more attractive to newcommers/newbees than the standard Kmenu. There are several aspects of the Kickoff menu that I do not like and I often end up using the search to get to the app I need. But for new users that are not in to KDE, it seems to be a good match.

Birger
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KDE got boring
by Richard on Thursday 19/Jul/2007, @04:53
I've actually just left linux and gone back to windows, solely because right now I don't see KDE as being that interesting. Kopete is lacking, Kmail is substandard. Really the only decent and exciting apps with kde are amarok and k3b. Also having a dial up connection mostly updating KDE weekly is a nightmare. I don't see how many windows people are going to use kde4 with the size of the updates. Will be keeping an eye out for KDE4, and prolly come back to linux to try that, and hope that kmail and kopete teams start improving their products.
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