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Nice, but
by Bernhard Rode on Thursday 16/Aug/2007, @01:46
It looks nice and it is always good, when commercial products join to support a project.

But after all the things I've read until now, I'm a little bit upset.
Imho a KDE Plasma MediaCenter would mean I zoom to my MediaCenter and their, I'll get some widgets connecting to Amarok/DigiKam/... via DBUS and give me the ability to show/hear my media in a comfortable way. Very cool might be sharing my Libraries via Zeroconf.
For me at the moment LinuxMCE seems to be some kind of sperate piece of Software, they use so many different technologies. This is Ok for MediaCenter only Screens, but not on my Desktops. Here I think the footprint should as small as possible...

I believe in the kde team, and I know that many killer features will be released with 4.1. After the base is done in 4.0.

Linux MCE does many things good. I will try it out as soon as I have some sparetime left.

And to the LinuxMCE guys... you did a great piece of software and with your decision to join plasma, you got style too....


About the XBMC:
I think its the perfect MediaCenter UI.
Maybe we should get this project (http://www.xboxmediacenter.com/wiki/index.php?title=Linux_port_project) team to join us.
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future development?
by Ian Monroe on Thursday 16/Aug/2007, @07:31
I don't quite understand it either. It makes sense that they aren't using Amarok, since its not a "10 foot interface." But I don't quite get where Plasma fits into all this, perhaps its the future direction of development for LinuxMCE.

I watched a lot of the LinuxMCE video, its simply amazing.
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  • Re: future development?
    by kwilliam on Thursday 16/Aug/2007, @08:47
    Plasma is not just the desktop. It's a set of libraries for drawing and animating cool things. (For instance, Amarok 2 uses Plasma to render it's Context Browser.) Perhaps they are thinking of rewriting LinuxMCE's user interface to take advantage of the Plasma libraries, so they don't have to reinvent the wheel. That might make the interface more memory efficient, better looking, and easier to customize the look. (I'm just making an educated guess here; I'm not a developer so I don't really know what LinuxMCE/KDE4 integration would be like.)
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    • Re: future development?
      by Troy Unrau on Thursday 16/Aug/2007, @09:02
      You're preaching to the choir here. Ian is an amarok devel :)
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  • Re: future development?
    by Bernhard Rode on Thursday 16/Aug/2007, @08:49
    I hope that the Linux MCE Guys integrate in the Technlogies which build our pillars such as Plasma, Decibel, Phonon....

    If we can get all their functionalities into the Desktop... that would be unbelievabel cool.

    I think a lightweight GUI to connect to a server would be great a great step.

    Then announcing/sharing local pictures/movies/... to/with a central server via upnp protocol or just zeroconf would make it even better.
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  • Re: future development?
    by Aaron J. Seigo on Thursday 16/Aug/2007, @09:00
    > I don't quite get where Plasma fits into all this

    it's the "point of desktop integration" and i happen to be the point of contact, so ... yeah. =) it's not so much that there will be a heart transplant in linuxMCE where plasma is put into the core, but that the two projects will integrate around the desktop. personally, i hope to have plasmoids available in media center interface (that's why there is a "media center" form factor) and that some of the current linuxMCE components will draw in the future from kde technologies (e.g. solid or phonon, certainly more qt4)
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Re: Nice, but
by Aaron J. Seigo on Thursday 16/Aug/2007, @09:09
> For me at the moment LinuxMCE seems to be some kind of sperate
> piece of Software

indeed. the same would be said of XBMC as well if they came along. that's the whole point of starting to work on integration.

kde could start our own media center from scratch and try and build up a group of developers and all the software needed. maybe we could call is MediaBuntu or something ;)

or we could work with an existing project. unfortunately, all of the media centers are pretty "foreign" to the desktop as add-on projects.

so if we don't go the NIH route, then we have to work on integration and harmonizing technologies and what not. note the part about providing a standardized interface mechanism? they emphasized that versus "here is our media player! use our media player! booyah!" they currently use myth / xine and you know what? those can be swapped out. that appeals to me.

what's really cool is the MCE guys are *looking* for a way to integrate with a desktop, so i don't have to go out and convince someone about that first important change in mindset.

as for XBMC, it does look really cool (i've played with it, it's slick in a few ways). but their linux port is really, really not even close at this point. i'd be somewhat surprised as well if their linux port turned into a complete fork with a different set of goals (e.g. not being a stand alone system).

personally, i'd rather start with someone that already works and already has the mindset of desktop integration. we can put some nice oxy art on top of MCE and provide access to more apps and tap into larger developer pools.

to be perfectly blunt, i think XBMC is a buzzword and a coolio fad in the hobbyist world. that doesn't mean it's crap, it just means it's not particularly suited for what we need, cool buzzword truthiness aside.
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