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Re: More attention to KDE Education project
by Gizmo on Thursday 25/Oct/2007, @00:22
It's nice to see FOSS software in schools however when 99 percent of the desktops run Windows or OSX, what will these kids do when they leave school and look for careers? Knowledge of Windows is pretty much a job requirement for any position these days.
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Re: More attention to KDE Education project
by T on Thursday 25/Oct/2007, @03:15
> Knowledge of Windows is pretty much a job requirement for any position
> these days.

So all the elementary schools running OSX are dooming our kids to a life of unemployment?

Look at how much Linux adoption has increased in the last 5 years alone. By the time today's schoolkids will be looking for a job, do you really believe that desktops will be only 1% Linux? Or that Windows-then will look like Windows-now, more so than the differences between Windows-now and KDE-now? Even if Linux stays in the minority, do you think there aren't "niches" in the computer ecosystem? Finally, if a bunch of kids grow up on Linux, don't you think the world might start to change once they start making the decisions?
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  • Re: More attention to KDE Education project
    by zip on Thursday 25/Oct/2007, @08:50
    Linux has been around for what, 15 years? In that time Microsoft has released some real bombs, up to and including Vista, yet Linux still hovers around 1 percent of desktop market share. I've been hearing for years how 'this is the year of Linux on the desktop" and in truth it has not happened.
    Is Linux a good idea in education?
    Maybe, but all the good educational software, SAT prep, LSAT prep, K-8, etc software is written for either Windows or Macintosh.
    Having kids play little match the number box games at the kindergarten level is one thing. Having a complete SAT prep course, language course etc at the seconday school level (Windows/Mac) is a completely different animal.

    So if schools wish to save money, Linux might be a good choice.
    If schools are intereseted in commercial level applications that tutor and enrich, Linux is a terrible choice.
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    • Re: More attention to KDE Education project
      by Fri13 on Thursday 25/Oct/2007, @12:02
      "I've been hearing for years how 'this is the year of Linux on the desktop" and in truth it has not happened."

      What does "Year of Linux on the desktop" really mean? Does it mean that in that year, 50% of windows users switch to GNU/Linux? Does it mean that 50% of commercial software makers starts making applications to GNU/Linux?
      If it does mean that GNU/Linux is easy enough to be used by avarage joe and avarage Lisa, then it has already happend on 2006. We dont anymore see "This is year of Linux" because it has already happend. Now we just need to keep supporting that it will not go "It was year of Linux few years ago".

      "Linux still hovers around 1 percent of desktop market share."

      Then that 1% desktop market share must come from our country (Finland) alone... because GNU/Linux is in media everyday, it gets installed everyday to new users in big installation rate, you can go to PC store and get GNU/Linux distro. You can almoust go any school (any level) and ask how many use GNU/Linux at home on PC and you get 30% hands getting up.
      Only place where you have problems to see GNU/Linux is in big corporations what still hesitate to move. If those big corporations would start developing open softaware from those needed apps, it would pay itself back in 10 years and after that, it would be free from Microsoft.

      And it's just bulls't that GNU/Linux has only 1% marketshare. By tought estimate it is now over 5-7%
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    • Re: More attention to KDE Education project
      by Anonimos Anonimos on Monday 29/Oct/2007, @01:56
      Get a life. Your fud machine is getting rusty.

      Look, revolutions in IT are evolutionary tales whose real impact is only felt after the fact and with a lot of hindsight. If you cannot look back to the mid 1996-1997 when kde started and say that what has happened is revolutionary, you are blind.

      In a decade we have built an amazing desktop that is localized into hundreds of languages and created the foundations for the future.

      The proprietary applications will come. SPSS just released a Linux version and makes it possible to deploy Linux in our sociology department.

      You can choose to see what you want, but your brand of bullshit is getting old.
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Re: More attention to KDE Education project
by kollum on Thursday 25/Oct/2007, @06:22
Well, when I was at scool, there were no lesson on computer, but if it had been, I would have been teached comand line mono task things.

And now, I am geting ready to work, what am I likely to work on ?
Vista/XP (not that much), or KDE (hopefully) or *cauth* CDE (because it seems HP-UX+CDE is widely used on the workstation of my targeted companies...)

And last but not least : How long dit it take me to swich from WinXP to KDE the first time ? About one week to get used to it. Yay, so about 3% of my traineeship I may be a little disapointed by the new UI.
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Re: More attention to KDE Education project
by Henry S. on Thursday 25/Oct/2007, @16:07
Please read the following as a disagreement on what schools teach, not as a Microsoft vs Linux flame:

The purpose of computers in most public schools isn't to train kids to be Quickbooks gurus or Microsoft Access gurus, it is usually to teach them to type, read, or do math. The only general software *most* kids learn in school is word processing and spreadsheets, and they only do basic stuff which is the same regardless of system. The more advance computing in schools is usually done in programming classes...and for that, they probably should be using Linux.
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Re: More attention to KDE Education project
by she on Friday 26/Oct/2007, @02:55
Knowledge of MS is vital?

Really, the basic things someone does there is just click-click

What kind of difficult knowledge is that???
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