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Re: Damn, still that ugly taskbar!
by jospoortvliet on Wednesday 31/Oct/2007, @04:44
You might try xinit:

xinit startkde -- :1

Will start a KDE desktop in a new screen (ctrl-alt-F8).

If you want to run KDE 4 applications from within your KDE 3, I've done the following:

Install KDE 4 as user 'kde4', including all .bashrc settings of course.
Use 'sux - kde4' to go to the kde4 user from within konsole in KDE 3 and then just start applications...
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Re: Damn, still that ugly taskbar!
by LordBernhard on Wednesday 31/Oct/2007, @05:03
first thx for the answer! it hasn't worked out completely but it's a first step.

Here my situation:

I'v got a seperate user (kde-devel), I've edited the .bashrc like stated on techbase. With the sux - kde-devel command I can start kde4 programs (but some programs report errors (e.g. ksysguard (no localhost found)). (if that's important: atm I'm running a gnome session because I didn't want to mix up KDE3 and KDE4 environment so I simply didn't install KDE3 (a fresh debian system)

And I still don't know how to start a seperate X- Session because xinit startkde -- :1 gives me an error that I haven't got the permissions to do that -.-
And I can't start it as root because that he dosn't find the paths.
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  • Re: Damn, still that ugly taskbar!
    by Tom Vollerthun on Wednesday 31/Oct/2007, @06:02
    You could try to start a new session using sudo - that would give you all the permissions while retaining the paths.

    I prefer to use the xephyr-based solution that is described in the wiki as well - that won't let you use composite (afaik), but won't crash your other session if kwin b0rks while switching the sessions (yes, that used to be a known bug). That way I can check if it's already stable enough to be run in a "real" session while keeping me save and warm.

    Oh, and to get rid of the remainings of any old build you may have installed, you should run rm -rf ~/.kde4/ every now and then.
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    • Re: Damn, still that ugly taskbar!
      by Sutoka on Thursday 01/Nov/2007, @10:22
      Xephyr supports composite, and I believe newer versions support using Indirect GLX (instead of doing it entirely in software).

      You might need to do +extension composite to get it to work (I don't remember the exact command I used yesterday, but I did have kompmgr (KDE3's old xcompmgr style composite manager) running in it perfectly fine.
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  • Re: Damn, still that ugly taskbar!
    by Anon on Wednesday 31/Oct/2007, @06:49
    You don't mention running the

    xhost +local:kde-devel

    command. Run it as a user who is able to startx e.g. your usual user.
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