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Re: GiB? MiB? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? Over?
by Capit. Igloo on Friday 02/Nov/2007, @13:03
1 MW = 1 000 000 W
1 km = 1 000 m
1 THz = 10^12 Hz
1 k€ = 1 000 €
so 1 kB = 1 000 B for a lot of people (ask to your barber or your baker)

HD manufacturers uses SI prefix correctly, french (but probably in a lot of other countries) network and telecommunication specialist uses SI prefix correctly. Why do you want "k" means 1000 for all of us but "1024" for some people of the computers world?

Think about that: we write our numbers in the decimal numeral system, and SI prefix are made for the decimal numeral system. The binary prefix are good for numbers written in the binary numeral system, but very bad for the decimal numeral system. We write and think in the base ten, not two.
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Re: GiB? MiB? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? Over?
by Paul Eggleton on Friday 02/Nov/2007, @13:20
Except 1000 bytes isn't as useful as 1024 bytes in computer terms. Besides which, a kilobyte has been 1024 bytes and a megabyte 1,048,576 bytes for a very long time. It's going to be next to impossible to convince people that the SI way is worth changing over to, particularly as "mebibyte", "kibibyte" and "gibibyte" just sound silly, and ordinary computer users simply won't care enough to make the distinction.
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  • Re: GiB? MiB? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? Over?
    by Capit. Igloo on Saturday 03/Nov/2007, @03:31
    > "Except 1000 bytes isn't as useful as 1024 bytes in computer terms."

    Right, but why you want to destroy the SI standard just for one case? And no, "mebibyte", "kibibyte" and "gibibyte" don't sound silly and they are useful disambigious terms.
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Re: GiB? MiB? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? Over?
by Paul Eggleton on Friday 02/Nov/2007, @13:26
I forgot to mention - hard drive manufacturers don't use the "SI" measurement necessarily because it is correct. They use it mostly because it allows them to confuse some people into thinking a drive has a bit more capacity than it actually does. According to a recent article[1], Seagate recently settled a lawsuit over this and is offering refunds or other compensation because of this capacity difference.

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http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&taxonomyName=storage&articleId=9045141
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  • Re: GiB? MiB? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? Over?
    by Capit. Igloo on Saturday 03/Nov/2007, @03:41
    > "They use it mostly because it allows them to confuse some people"

    Ok, but don't forget that those "some people" are all people of the computers world. For ordinary people, k=1OOO, and they understand correctly the size of USB keys or hard drives.

    Then, it's difficult to compare 578 MiB and 591872 KiB without a calculator, but it's very very easy to compare 578 MB and 578 000 KB...
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  • Re: GiB? MiB? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? Over?
    by Vide on Sunday 04/Nov/2007, @11:12
    And...? Programs, music, photos etc occupy MBytes and GBytes as well, everything depends on how your filemanager shows you the bytes used. So, this is a non.problem IMO, just be coherent though the whole system... and I'm all for MB/GB, not MiB/GiB, cause you, the user, have 10 fingers and are used since forever to use base 10.
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