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  Key KOffice Developers Talk About KOffice 2 and Open Standards
KDE Office Suite Posted by Sebastian Kügler on Friday 02/Nov/2007, @09:34
from the productivity-and-openness dept.
KOffice, the office suite built on KDE technology and in the KDE Communtiy has recently gotten a lot of press, but is still often underrepresented. In this interview, some key KOffice developers tell us about the recent progress of KDE's Office suite, about Open Standards and how KOffice plays an active role in bringing Freedom to users. We have talked to Boudewijn Rempt, developer of Krita, core KOffice contributor and KOffice release manager, as well as to David Faure who has been taking part in the OASIS, the organization that is responsible for advancing the OpenDocument (ODF) standard.

David Faure says:

We're taking part in the OASIS because we truly believe in Open Standards. KOffice standardises on OpenDocument. Free Software and open standards are a perfect match and the way to move forward for a society to ensure vendor-independent access to its data. We're actively participating in the OASIS since it matches our value, and we believe that one strong standard is in the best interest of our users.

Boudewijn Rempt gives us an overview over what's happening in the KOffice community.

How is KOffice 2 progressing?

We had a bit of a slow start -- porting to KDE4 took longer than we thought. Maybe we started our port a little too early. Large parts of most applications have been completely rewritten. We're making really good progress now, across the board of applications. The Google Summer of Code project to improve OpenDocument support in KWord has been a big success: we're still not completely done, but confidently expect KOffice 2.0 to have improved support for OpenDocument in key areas such as spreadsheet and word processing.

What will be the main features for KOffice 2?

We've taken integration to the next level. Applications now offer an interface optimized for a particular task, but they all use the same small-grained objects to compose documents from. That means richer documents, more consistency in the user interface and excellent expandability.

What target users do you have in mind for KOffice?

Right now, home users, students and people running small businesses. Additionally, KOffice offers a very flexible and rich platform for implementing office-type applications for specific markets, such as education or vertical markets.

Can you explain some platform aspects of KOffice 2(.x)?

OpenDocument is totally native for us. KOffice has had a large part in establishing the standard and continues innovating within the standard and contributing to new versions of the OpenDocument standard. OpenDocument really is the platform we are building on, it informs many of our design decisions, without forcing us to implement an OpenOffice clone at all.

KOffice has some time ago switched to OpenDocument as default file format. What is the motivation for this move?

Cooperation has always been in the forefront of KOffice development. We developed the libwv2 .doc library together with Abiword, and the libwpd WordPerfect library together with OpenOffice. Developing our own, underspecified file format just didn't make any sense when there is a chance to cooperate on a widely used, rigorously specified file format. Besides, we listen to our users and hear that they want to exchange documents without enforcing their customers, teachers or peers to use the exactly same application in the exactly same version.

Why do you think OpenDocument is the right thing to embrace for KOffice?

It's been beneficial in two ways: the KOffice involvement has kept OpenDocument from becoming the memory dump of OpenOffice internals detractors so often allege it to be. And KOffice has gained recognition, compatibility and also quite a few features in the process.

There is a Windows version of some of the KOffice applications coming up. In how far does this new platform influence the way the KOffice community works?

Well, it's actually *all* of the KOffice applications that will be available on all three platforms: Unix/X11, OS X and Windows. Not that that changes much for us: we have a very clear vision of what we want to achieve, and we're making good progress in that direction. We are ready to welcome the influx of users the wider availability of KOffice means -- and actually, we're already get quite a few inquiries about where people can download our software.

Recently, the ISO standardisation process of OfficeOpenXML ("OOXML") has gained a lot of public attention. What are the implications of OpenXML as ISO standard next to ODF for Free Software applications?

The standardisation process of OfficeOpenXML has turned sour, not in the least because Microsoft couldn't resist the temptation to cheat. Right now we're seeing evidence of a concerted campaign at discrediting OpenDocument vis-a-vis OfficeOpen XML. That's unfortunate, to say the least.

If OfficeOpen XML becomes an ISO standard, we will, in all likely hood, still not spend time on supporting it. The standard is enormous, very complex and to a large extent so badly specified that a full implementation is probably even harder than implementing the old Microsoft binary file formats. Add to that patent encumbrances and problems with copyrighted elements -- and our conclusion is that we prefer to concentrate on making KOffice a great set of applications that are satisfying to use and satisfying to develop.

There were rumors about an ODF library in KDE. Can you update us on the progress there?

We're committed to developing such a library. Only today, some first steps have been set in the direction of that goal. Still baby steps, and the ODF library won't be available with KDE 4.0 or even KDE 4.1, but we are keeping that goal in mind when developing KOffice.

Recently, more and more governmental agencies and public bodies embrace ODF as their default document standard. Can you give us reasons for that?

There are many good reasons for governments and public bodies to support OpenDocument, and no good reasons not to support it. OpenDocument documents can be read and edited on every computing platform, present and future. Wide availability is good for citizens, a solidly specified, unencumbered standard is good for archiving, and the very implementability means a free market with genuine competition, which is good for the budget.

Thank you very much. I'm personally really looking forward to KOffice 2.0. I think it's the office suite with the greatest potential in the market right now.



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It makes no sense
by yxxcvsdfbnfgnds on Friday 02/Nov/2007, @16:09
First you say "we listen to our users and hear that they want to exchange documents without enforcing their customers, teachers or peers to use the exactly same application in the exactly same version.", but later you say "If OfficeOpen XML becomes an ISO standard, we will, in all likely hood, still not spend time on supporting it."

I'm sorry, but get a reality check. MS Office has about 90% market share. OpenOffice is in a large part so successful, because it supports MS Office formats very well. People don't want to use office software that frags the documents they recieve. No supporting MS file formats does not weaken MS's position, but makes people stick with MS Office.
There is already a very good FOSS converter for OOXML documents. It converts OOXML files to ODF files and vice versa. There's no need to work through the big OOXML specs and write your own converter. Just make an *optional* KOffice module that talks to the CLI odf-converter app.
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Great to hear!
by hannes hauswedell on Friday 02/Nov/2007, @16:41
Good to see that koffice is making progress!
I have always used it on my machines for years now and always felt using openoffice a real burden (kind of like the feeling when using firefox although that isnt as bad ooo ;) )...
The only problems i had with koffice where related to ODF support which seemd to have been improved and tables (I could never get KWord to make proper tables with different size cells that dont crash KWord when being merged or split...).

Other than that its a great light-weight Office Suite that just integrates well with my favorite desktop ;)
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hmmm
by Richard on Friday 02/Nov/2007, @22:02
To be honest I just want an office suit that is just that, an office suit, word processor, etc. And now that OpenOffice 3 seems to be looking at bundling Thunderbird in as an email client to tackle outlook, I am looking more seriously at KOffice. So I am looking forward to see KOffice 2
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wating for KOffice 2
by Thomas on Saturday 03/Nov/2007, @01:31
I'm eagerly awaiting KOffice 2. We're using OO atm in our business (we switched from MS Office to SO/OO already 6 years ago). Most of our documents are in .odf-format anyway, and 99% are simple letters with our corporate logo on top, simple layout and lots of text. I already did a test to open some in Koffice betas. After the GSOC KOffice got it 90% correct, only the Logo disappeared somehow. KOffice starts up instantly is fast and lightweight with a clean UI.

We still recieve .ppt/.doc/.xls files by mail. I still don't know how to handle these. OO will stay for sure, but for our own documents I'd really like to take KOffice.

So far: way to go KOffice team!
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Try and erase
by nae on Saturday 03/Nov/2007, @02:25
Filter status for KOffice-2.0 is missing
( http://www.koffice.org/filters/ )

I'll recheck KOffice as fast as I'll be sure it gives some improvements
where it was really lacking.
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Amazing
by Matt on Saturday 03/Nov/2007, @08:25
It is amazing what great application suite such a small team of developers has created, and even more so what is happening now with koffice 2.

In my daily work koffice 1 is already perfectly usable, doing the job, and fast and fun to use.

Keep the pace up, guys, I can't wait to see koffice 2 !
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DTA - Kimalcorp.org
by W. Anderson on Saturday 03/Nov/2007, @13:11
I offer my strong support for the KDE and Koffice teams in your efforts to provide us computer users with a much better PC technology experience. Your reasons for supporting the ODF format are quite valid and understandable for anyone who has followed and understands the "reality" issues especially ooncerning OOXML.

Unfortunately many people here in the USA are totally ignorant of the facts
regarding ISO standards and certifications, and will continue to make stupid and completely (factually) false statements in support of Microsoft's disingenuous efforts at International open standards, simply because Bill Gates/Microsoft are an American entity and much of the KDE/Koffice and OpenOffice/ODF matter is European/Universal.

Keep up the good work, and do not be discouraged by having to constantly and time consumingly correct and educate people, and refute the nonsense like that which I have read in comments section.
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IBM Lotus Suite
by T. J. Brumfield on Saturday 03/Nov/2007, @18:52
This response is so late I wonder if anyone will even see it.

There are some developers who are a bit disenchanted with having to sign over copyrights to Sun and such, and haven't had their code included in OOo. IBM is now committing to becoming a major contributor to OOo, but what parts? I'm assuming much of the Lotus Suite's improvements will remain in IBM's fork so they can maintain copyright.

Lotus Suite is currently a fork of OOo 1, so they still have a long way to go to develop their fork. I wonder if IBM would instead consider contributing to and partnering with KOffice 2. The Lotus suite UI looked fairly sharp, and they seem to have a good idea for design. Collaborating with the KOffice devs (KOffice also has a better UI than OOo), I'm sure you guys could knock out incredible future versions of KOffice.

Big commercial support like that would be HUGE.
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OpenDocument Foundation shifting support to CDF
by Pumpkin Pie on Saturday 03/Nov/2007, @20:11
How is the OpenDocument Foundation shift in support to the W3C Compound Document Format going to affect things (if at all)?
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Excellent
by redeeman on Saturday 24/Nov/2007, @05:27
The KDE projects values are simply outstanding. Focusing on really open and free formats are the right thing to do, and KDE is at the front of the action.

truly excellent.
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Go guys go!
by Pete Dixon on Tuesday 11/Dec/2007, @22:40
I really dislike that a company who has fallen so far off the beam as MS has is the company to whom many people look to for standards. It's time for global, universally accepted standards that are independent of companies who monopolistic interests are served by their own rules being adopted. MS had a role at one time in setting standards but that time has passed.

And yeah, as you can tell from the tone of my writing, whenever I'm forced to use a MS product I generally go 'ick!' and end up getting mad from the design errors.
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